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  • avfc4life
    avfc4life Posts: 1,201 Forumite
    tom188 wrote: »
    There are equal numbers of indignant people who would complain if the bank had taken it away without asking. I am unsure of the situation with credit cards, but currently if a payment is made mistakenly into someones bank account the bank has to ask for it back.

    I know what you are saying but i think those people dont have a leg to stand on. If the money isnt yours you have no right to keep it and have no complaints if it is returned to its rightful owner
    Offical MSE Fantasy League Member:beer:
  • R0CKY
    R0CKY Posts: 121 Forumite
    the hastle of reclaiming the money aside, I'm just really REALLY surprised there was not a double check in place to prevent a very easy mistake to go through unchecked.
    Rocky.
  • loopydonna
    loopydonna Posts: 126 Forumite
    Nat West said they just transfer the money to Capital One with only the card number as a reference as to who it belongs to.

    It would make sense to send a surname as well to double check that it is going to the right person.
  • Jess1983
    Jess1983 Posts: 14 Forumite
    loopydonna wrote: »
    Nat West said they just transfer the money to Capital One with only the card number as a reference as to who it belongs to.

    It would make sense to send a surname as well to double check that it is going to the right person.


    Credit card companies can't see who the card belongs to, they can only see what TYPE of card it is.
    As long as a valid cardnumber is entered, there really is no other way except maybe asking for the number to be entered twice.

    As for getting your money back..

    The bank who made the balance transfer (IE Natwest in this case) HAS to recall the money. It should only take 10 working days max ( I think that's what the FSA guidelines state anyway).
    Any longer than that and you can ask to have any interest refunded, which would be well witin your right to do :)


    Hope that helps

    Jess
  • YorkshireBoy
    YorkshireBoy Posts: 31,541 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Some information (on direct credit problems) on the APACS website's automated payments FAQ page...

    http://www.apacs.org.uk/resources_publications/faqs_1.html

    Look for "Can I stop a direct credit? How can I cancel a direct credit?"

  • Lovin_It
    Lovin_It Posts: 71 Forumite
    Technically you paid Capital One, who on receiving the money chose to reduce the balance of the second cardholder's account (even if you did make a mistake with the reference). It's therefore Capital One's problem to fix - quite simple from their perspective I would imagine - it's all internal to their computer system. It's not like you did a bank transfer to a random person by getting a bank account number wrong, which would be less clear-cut.

    Good luck, they sound like a holes.
    But the banks are made of marble,
    With a guard at every door,
    And the vaults are stuffed with silver,
    That the farmer sweated for.
  • If both banks are refusing to help, then ask them for the name and address of the person that has had the credit to their account. Then write and ask for your money back within 7 days. If not received commence court proceedings.
    Don't lie, thieve, cheat or steal. The Government do not like the competition.
    The Lord Giveth and the Government Taketh Away.
    I'm sorry, I don't apologise. That's just the way I am. Homer (Simpson)
  • MABLE
    MABLE Posts: 4,239 Forumite
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    If both banks are refusing to help, then ask them for the name and address of the person that has had the credit to their account. Then write and ask for your money back within 7 days. If not received commence court proceedings.

    So you are expecting the bank to give to a third party the name and address of one of their customers. I don't think so!
  • MABLE wrote: »
    So you are expecting the bank to give to a third party the name and address of one of their customers. I don't so!
    !

    On the basis that they are not refunding the money and has been stated that it is up to the person who has received the money to return it, I do not see what alternative the OP has. If it were me, I would be demanding the name with some menace I can tell you. I would guarantee then, something would be done.
    Don't lie, thieve, cheat or steal. The Government do not like the competition.
    The Lord Giveth and the Government Taketh Away.
    I'm sorry, I don't apologise. That's just the way I am. Homer (Simpson)
  • As I read this Capital One are not at fault.

    Nat West have acted upon your instructions albeit the instruction contained an error. However I suspect there is some small print T&Cs somewhere which points out that the onus falls on the customer to ensure their instructions are correct.

    I presume that Nat West have now debited this amount to your account. Therefore the money must be yours - even though it is sitting in the account of a person as yet unknown.

    If a customer has money paid in error into their account the creditor can demand it back or take legal action.

    This should equally apply in your case - except you are currently the creditor who is out of pocket.

    You will not be able to take any action against the person unknown until you know who they are - therefore you could try reporting this as 'theft by finding' to the police. The police are obliged to investigate this and will prosecute the 3rd party if they refuse to return the money.

    Meanwhile, I believe you stand liable for the debt and interest incurred until the money is recouped although I am happy to be corrected on this point.
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