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HELP! Premiere Park ticket. Ignore? Dispute? Pay?

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  • da_rule
    da_rule Posts: 3,618 Forumite
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    At least this OP has actually to search the forum and has read the sticky thread, and has then simply asked for advice to clear up confusion.
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    Stroma wrote: »
    Well it maybe Groundhog Day to you, but unfortunately it's not to people that are coming here, it's unique to them, and they deserve more than the replies being given. I advise on here and have for many years, I give people a reply not just a copy and paste like Aldi does on their Facebook page.

    Most people who come here are from a google search, I never offer advice to people who hijack threads but advise them to post a new thread. So I am responsible sometimes for these threads because that is what I tell them to do.

    The point is, one sure way to drive people away is just generic replies, by not bothering to give an an answer it will mean that we lose people to this scam, and causes us of having a bad mannered reputation. So it is self defeating!

    You know as well as I do that the number of new threads was getting out of hand and c-m spent a fair amount of time creating a decent advice thread. Before that, Umkomaas had a short step by step guide that outlined the process - maybe we should resurrect that one.

    But I draw your attention to this thread's heading. Surely that indicates a complete lack of any pre-posting research on this forum?

    And look at just how the number of new threads has increased over the last year - I notice it as it's about a year since I started on this forum.

    After the tirade I wrote, I did give a short precis of the process and a link to a really good set of appeals that the OP could use.

    But I do wish that some posters would do just a bit of decent self-research to make our contributions more specific than repeating it all step by step from square one.
  • Hot_Bring
    Hot_Bring Posts: 1,596 Forumite
    Stroma wrote: »
    I wish people would just offer advice as well as pointing to another thread! This poster has taken the trouble to post a new thread instead of hijacking one.

    To the OP , please read that thread pointed to. It does explain what to do. But to put it to you on this thread, basically you send an appeal to the parking company, use the one in the sticky thread in post #1, don't alter it in any way, just add name, address and date.

    Send it off either via mail with free proof of postage from the post office, or via email or online, personally I'd do both. If they reject you can go to the second stage appeal called popla, we can help you with this, so don't do it alone.

    We win 100% of the time with forum assisted appeals, the decision is binding on the parking company, so they won't take you to court. And that's it

    My main point in my reply was regards the "there is conflicting advice" - THERE REALLY ISN'T CONFLICTING ADVICE ON HERE !!!!!

    There may be a lot of advice but there isn't any that says anything other than the standard appeal to the PPC, complain to the landowner and appeal to POPLA.

    The problem is that people want an exact instruction manual based on THEIR situation. Unfortunately there isn't one - Coupon Mad has spent hours of her time creating the Newbies thread and yet people are too lazy to read it properly.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis." - Dante Alighieri
  • Hot_Bring
    Hot_Bring Posts: 1,596 Forumite
    Frameboy wrote: »
    Yep, but that sticky had so much in it that I was confused as to whom and what it was referring to.

    I was hoping someone rather that get on their high old Internet horse might be able to simplify things for a mere noob.

    The main thing I was asking was does the 'half price' discount charge vanish if my appeal goes over the 14 days?

    If anyone would be able to clear that up that'd be smashing!

    Basically it is irrelevant if the "half price con" vanishes - if you read the Newbies thread you'll realise you don't have to pay a penny.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis." - Dante Alighieri
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    wiogs wrote: »
    Stroma I am sure people appreciate the help but when a new poster arrives with the line "I've searched the forum but I'm getting mixed messages" then I wonder what sort of search they might have done.

    On the very first post of the oft link to thread there is this
    "PLEASE DON'T START A NEW THREAD BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT MATCHES YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES''

    Seems clear and unambiguous to me.

    Yes probably searched as in google, for example this is a search on google for parking eye, note the links for mse - sorry nt enough on google with this company

    https://www.google.co.uk/#q=parking+eye&safe=off
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Guys_Dad wrote: »
    You know as well as I do that the number of new threads was getting out of hand and c-m spent a fair amount of time creating a decent advice thread. Before that, Umkomaas had a short step by step guide that outlined the process - maybe we should resurrect that one.

    But I draw your attention to this thread's heading. Surely that indicates a complete lack of any pre-posting research on this forum?

    And look at just how the number of new threads has increased over the last year - I notice it as it's about a year since I started on this forum.

    After the tirade I wrote, I did give a short precis of the process and a link to a really good set of appeals that the OP could use.

    But I do wish that some posters would do just a bit of decent self-research to make our contributions more specific than repeating it all step by step from square one.

    The problem Guys Dad is that is that most forums don't want new threads, they want discussions on ones that are there already. And plus the fact its a pain to actually do a search on vBulletin forums, most people don't see tiny links at the top of the forum. And only realise they are there when pointed out.

    And its not going to get better, as more and more people get these tickets, with more people using the internet to find out things, we are going to get even busier with this. What I don't want to happen is somebody paying this scam because people here are irate because of the number of posts and threads.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    edited 11 March 2014 at 8:42PM
    Hot_Bring wrote: »
    My main point in my reply was regards the "there is conflicting advice" - THERE REALLY ISN'T CONFLICTING ADVICE ON HERE !!!!!


    Yes there is, check out this link where we were advising ignore a year or so ago
    https://www.google.co.uk/#q=parking+eye&safe=off
    Hot_Bring wrote: »
    There may be a lot of advice but there isn't any that says anything other than the standard appeal to the PPC, complain to the landowner and appeal to POPLA.



    Yes and the standard advise from 2012 and earlier was ignore ignore ignore, now those links on the google search comes up with old threads
    Hot_Bring wrote: »
    The problem is that people want an exact instruction manual based on THEIR situation. Unfortunately there isn't one - Coupon Mad has spent hours of her time creating the Newbies thread and yet people are too lazy to read it properly.

    I can't see people being lazy, they just don't see it, that is not laziness, that simply that very often people don't how to use a forum
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • wiogs
    wiogs Posts: 2,744 Forumite
    Stroma wrote: »
    Yes probably searched as in google, for example this is a search on google for parking eye, note the links for mse - sorry nt enough on google with this company

    https://www.google.co.uk/#q=parking+eye&safe=off

    In this case the OP stated "I've searched the forum" so not a Google search.
  • Frameboy
    Frameboy Posts: 7 Forumite
    Thanks chaps,

    You got it, I was just after some info to clear things up. I've been on a zillion forums in my time and I know how it goes. Seems everyone is the same to jump on people who don't search. Like you've got time to write a hefty reply telling me my faliures as a forum user, but you can't just say, "yeah, appeal, you'll lose your discount but it'll all be alright."

    Anyway, thanks for the help, I'll start an appeal and see what happens.
  • Frameboy
    Frameboy Posts: 7 Forumite
    I got the ignore threads before I got this and that's been the thing that threw me in the first place. I did a Google search in the first, read THE WHOLE OLD FORUM until I came to the link to the new one and promptly came here and began searching.

    The stickies are pretty big to read through and quite imposing on a bear of very little brain who is currently filling his undies about a parking fine. So yeah, excuse the possible unnecessary post.
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