Using cashback or reward credit card to pay mortgage

Hi, does anyone know if this can be done? There are a few cards out there which offer significant rewards if you spend £x per annum on the card. I've heard the Airmiles Amercian Express credit card can be used for this. Does anyone have any input or experience of this?

Ta much

Tiny
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  • Hooloovoo
    Hooloovoo Posts: 1,281 Forumite
    No bank will accept a credit card for a mortgage payment. Or if they do, they will charge you enough to wipe out any savings you might make through rewards.
  • thenudeone
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    The only reason that most businesses accept CCs (and therefore have to pay merchant fees) is that if they didn't, you would probably go elsewhere.

    You have no option with a mortgage payment (or a loan or an overdraft), so the mortgage company is not going to accept a payment by CC (possibly unless you paid the extra fees).
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  • Thistlewhistle
    Thistlewhistle Posts: 1,091 Forumite
    edited 8 March 2014 at 8:08PM
    I can also imagine that if you're paying a mortgage with any kind of other credit, it doesn't look good in terms of your ability to pay. You might fall foul of this if you try to renegotiate a deal at a future date.

    Your mortgage provider's first thought will be "struggling to pay - high risk!!!" rather than "cleverly using a credit card to earn a bit of free cash!"

    I might be wrong, but in some cases, if a mortgage provider got wind of you being a potential high risk, they could demand that you repay the full amount immediately which would be an absolute nightmare, and cost a jolly sight more than you'd ever save from using the credit card.
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  • pvt
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    I might be wrong, but in some cases, if a mortgage provider got wind of you being a potential high risk, they could demand that you repay the full amount immediately which would be an absolute nightmare, and cost a jolly sight more than you'd ever save from using the credit card.

    Indeed you would be wrong. And very comprehensively.

    The mortgage lender cannot suddenly demand repayment if you are up to date and complying with your repayments, no matter what suspicion they might have about your creditworthiness and your future ability to repay it.

    How do you think they would enforce such an action - repossession?
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  • Thistlewhistle
    Thistlewhistle Posts: 1,091 Forumite
    pvt wrote: »
    Indeed you would be wrong. And very comprehensively.

    The mortgage lender cannot suddenly demand repayment if you are up to date and complying with your repayments, no matter what suspicion they might have about your creditworthiness and your future ability to repay it.

    How do you think they would enforce such an action - repossession?

    Hi pvt,

    I wasn't sure so thanks for putting me right.

    It's still not something I'd like to test though.

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    Mortgage at end 08/2018: £71646 paid £18354 (20.5%)
    MFD: :eek:Original:05/2042:eek:
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  • planteria
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    Hooloovoo wrote: »
    No bank will accept a credit card for a mortgage payment. Or if they do, they will charge you enough to wipe out any savings you might make through rewards.

    there are cases where this has not been the case.
  • JuneS
    JuneS Posts: 62 Forumite
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    pvt wrote: »
    Indeed you would be wrong. And very comprehensively.

    The mortgage lender cannot suddenly demand repayment if you are up to date and complying with your repayments, no matter what suspicion they might have about your creditworthiness and your future ability to repay it.

    How do you think they would enforce such an action - repossession?

    If you read the smallprint of almost any mortgage loan agreement, if usually gives the lender the right to call in the loan on about 28 days notice.

    Whether or not any respectable mortgage lender would attempt to do this in the situation described (which is probably entirely artificial anyway as I don't know of any mortgage lender that will accept the monthly payment by credit card) is debateable; if such a foreclosure was made public, it would seriously harm the reputation of such a mortgage lender for a start.

    But the right is there...
  • PeacefulWaters
    PeacefulWaters Posts: 8,495 Forumite
    JuneS wrote: »
    If you read the smallprint of almost any mortgage loan agreement, if usually gives the lender the right to call in the loan on about 28 days notice.

    Whether or not any respectable mortgage lender would attempt to do this in the situation described (which is probably entirely artificial anyway as I don't know of any mortgage lender that will accept the monthly payment by credit card) is debateable; if such a foreclosure was made public, it would seriously harm the reputation of such a mortgage lender for a start.

    But the right is there...
    No court will agree a repossession for one missed payment.
  • pvt
    pvt Posts: 1,433 Forumite
    JuneS wrote: »
    If you read the smallprint of almost any mortgage loan agreement, if usually gives the lender the right to call in the loan on about 28 days notice.

    Whether or not any respectable mortgage lender would attempt to do this in the situation described (which is probably entirely artificial anyway as I don't know of any mortgage lender that will accept the monthly payment by credit card) is debateable; if such a foreclosure was made public, it would seriously harm the reputation of such a mortgage lender for a start.

    But the right is there...

    I very much doubt you would be able to find any evidence to substantiate that, but if such a clause was present in a mortgage agreement it would be manifestly unfair and, as such, completely unenforceable.
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  • scoly
    scoly Posts: 77 Forumite
    edited 10 March 2014 at 11:21AM
    pvt wrote: »
    I very much doubt you would be able to find any evidence to substantiate that, but if such a clause was present in a mortgage agreement it would be manifestly unfair and, as such, completely unenforceable.

    As much as you may think it unfair and unenforceable, JuneS is correct more or less. When we bought our house our solicitor pointed out the possibility that the lender could demand repayment in full at any time, in our case subject to 3 months notice

    http://www.mmbs.co.uk/Mtg%20conditions%207th%20edition.pdf (Section M13)

    When I asked further about this, the solicitor said it was a very common type of clause that he finds in mortgage agreements. However it is very rarely if ever used, and if it was then people would just go and re-mortgage elsewhere.

    When my sister bought her house, she was also alerted to the similar clause by her solicitor - she could have as little as 2 months notice.
    http://www.leedsbuildingsociety.co.uk/introducers/solicitors/pdf/Conditions_England_Wales.pdf (section 3.2)
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