Scottish Independence Referendum: Your Vote

I_have_spoken

No

I shall certainly be voting No

The YeSNP and Wee Eck have exactly the same policies for mad-cap spending, unlimited immigration and nasty authoritarianism as nuLabour during the 1997-2010 terror that nearly wrecked Britain.

beecher2

Yes

I'm voting yes - believe that decisions about Scotland should be made by a government which represents people who live in Scotland. Despair over those who think this is all about Alex Salmond.

Swing between feeling hopeful that the yes vote will win it, and fearful over the future if we decide to stay part of the UK.

Thrugelmir

angelcatcher wrote: »

That is very true. But they have branches and customers here instead.

RBS can remain Scottish. Prior to Natwest takeover and other international deals it was an insignificant player in the banking sector. Likewise BOS. My feeling is that is where it will return to. A small operation in a small country.

Jennifer_Jane

tberry6686 wrote: »

Interesting that you think that the majority of us are determined to go when every poll taken so far has been a win for the no vote. Perhaps you know something that the pollsters don't or (more likely) you have been taken in by the media spin.

No, not me. But do address this point to the Scots on this forum who are arguing for a "Yes" vote.


So absolutely NOT taken in the media spin - but part of my fury at all this is that the "Yes" people are so sure it will go through and that there will be no cost in terms of their relationship with the rUK over it.


It's very sad that this is happening in my view. But the "Yes" Scots should be under no illusion that their nearest neighbour and major trading partner will not be mightily upset if they do decide to go.

beecher2

Yes

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

It's very sad that this is happening in my view. But the "Yes" Scots should be under no illusion that their nearest neighbour and major trading partner will not be mightily upset if they do decide to go.

I hope that if we have a Yes vote, both Scotland and rUK would be able to have a mature, neighbourly relationship. Not sure why you think we would like rUK to be upset?

Many people I know have described their personal 'journey' from don't know or no to yes, and I believe that it is inevitable that Scotland will be independent one day, if not after September.

zagubov

The_Angry_Jock wrote: »

I've got a 2 year old, other no & undecideds have toddlers, other yes voters do also. To me it just looks like another statement to discredit and shame those who haven't decided to vote yes.

No, not a statement, an honest question.

Clearly not one that you couldn't twist into a hostile meaning if you tried hard enough.

Read back over the previous posts in this forum where people have mentioned their kids ( or not); is your first sentence based on what they've said or have you switched the discussion by now talking about people outside the forum?

tberry6686 wrote: »

Interesting that you think that the majority of us are determined to go when every poll taken so far has been a win for the no vote. Perhaps you know something that the pollsters don't or (more likely) you have been taken in by the media spin.

It is weird.
Many posters say they're annoyed Scotland wants to leave and others dig up stats to show the Scots don't want to leave.

One minute it's "the EU won't let you charge fees/avoid the euro" and the next it's "you won't be in the EU".
Or it's "your banks are too big and risky for you to share the pound or the Bof E " and the next it's ""you won't have any risky banks as your banks will move south"

beecher2

Yes

http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/repository/AyeRightMarch14.pdf

For those looking for alternative sources for information on the referendum, have a look at this link.

Jennifer_Jane

beecher2 wrote: »

I hope that if we have a Yes vote, both Scotland and rUK would be able to have a mature, neighbourly relationship. Not sure why you think we would like rUK to be upset?

Many people I know have described their personal 'journey' from don't know or no to yes, and I believe that it is inevitable that Scotland will be independent one day, if not after September.

1) Nothing I have heard, this side of the border, leads me to think that Alex Salmond et al are currently having a 'mature, neighbourly' relationship with rUK.

2) Nothing I have posted indicates that Scots "would like" rUK to be upset. Indeed, everything leads me to think that they don't care a jot what rUK thinks. It seems to be all about them, and them alone.


I heard Alex Salmond complaining about "bullying" when Westminster stood up and said none of the parties would accept Scotland's having a say in the GB Pound when or if they become independent. These are hardly the words of someone after a "mature and neighbourly" relationship. Westminster was only standing up for the rights of rUK in a sensible and practical way. It was common sense, not "bullying".


Any future referenda should be paid by Scots and Scots alone.

beecher2

Yes

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

1) Nothing I have heard, this side of the border, leads me to think that Alex Salmond et al are currently having a 'mature, neighbourly' relationship with rUK.

2) Nothing I have posted indicates that Scots "would like" rUK to be upset. Indeed, everything leads me to think that they don't care a jot what rUK thinks. It seems to be all about them, and them alone.


I heard Alex Salmond complaining about "bullying" when Westminster stood up and said none of the parties would accept Scotland's having a say in the GB Pound when or if they become independent. These are hardly the words of someone after a "mature and neighbourly" relationship. Westminster was only standing up for the rights of rUK in a sensible and practical way. It was common sense, not "bullying".


Any future referenda should be paid by Scots and Scots alone.

I think your post highlights the fact that those south of the border are looking at the debate purely through the prism of how it will impact on them - understandable when mainstream media focuses on highlighting disputes, risks and supposed anti-English sentiment. I urge you to read some of the links I've posted for a glimpse of what some of us hope to achieve in a new, Independent Scotland.

You say that Scotland doesn't give a jot what rUK thinks, but in this context why should we? This is about how the people of Scotland (who would not all describe themselves as 'Scots' as this is about people who live here, not necessarily those born here) want our country to be governed. We'll have cordial relationships with rUK, Ireland, the rest of the EU etc.

We'll pay for our referendum if you pay for the EU in-out one

CLAPTON

I'm love to know how many of the hated English were supporting Scotland today.