Scottish Independence Referendum: Your Vote

Jennifer_Jane

I am so angry about this whole thing. I live in the North of England, in the United Kingdom, far from Westminster and we don't spend time whinging about Westminster. I feel British rather than English.


Alex Salmond is leading Scotland in a foolhardy and hubristic sabotage of the United Kingdom. It's historic, all right - a historic folly.


But since the Scots seemed determined to go, then go - go and don't come back.


I can be just as headstrong as any Scot, indeed, I have a Scottish surname - so I would say that if Scotland ever wanted to return, then I hope that rUK would have a referendum. My vote in that would be never.

michaels

As a resident of rUK i would be oh so pleased if we were no longer under the yoke of Scottish politicians and no longer had to support the Scots elevated public spending via our taxes. Sadly I think the Scots are weak willed and will bottle it, deciding that their economic interests outweigh their freedom

ifstar

No

We have our own parliament that can pass it's own laws and decide it's own local spending. I don't feel we need to give our politicians more power. There is great uncertainty over entry to the EU and currency, issues that should really have been investigated and resolved long before now.


There is also a number of large companies like RBS saying they may have to move HQ away from Edinburgh in the event of a yes win, losing thousands of jobs.

zagubov

The_Angry_Jock wrote: »

No Voter - Traitor, selfish, ignorant, childless.

Yes Voter - Patriot, altruistic, well-read, baby factory.

Undecided - See No Voter.

I was wondering whether those who have children there to be affected by the vote's outcome, have a tendency to vote one way or another, as they have to think of the long-term consequences rather than immediate benefits or problems.

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

I am so angry about this whole thing. I live in the North of England, in the United Kingdom, far from Westminster and we don't spend time whinging about Westminster. I feel British rather than English.


Alex Salmond is leading Scotland in a foolhardy and hubristic sabotage of the United Kingdom. It's historic, all right - a historic folly.


But since the Scots seemed determined to go, then go - go and don't come back.


I can be just as headstrong as any Scot, indeed, I have a Scottish surname - so I would say that if Scotland ever wanted to return, then I hope that rUK would have a referendum. My vote in that would be never.

Sabotage of the United Kingdom?

What negative impact do you think that independence would have on the rUK?
You'd be losing an apparent subsidy junky (according to many posters here)
and a bunch of MPs that can vote on English matters that don't affect them.

And why would you feel less British?

Jennifer_Jane

zagubov wrote: »

I was wondering whether those who have children there to be affected by the vote's outcome, have a tendency to vote one way or another, as they have to think of the long-term consequences rather than immediate benefits or problems.



Sabotage of the United Kingdom?

What negative impact do you think that independence would have on the rUK?
You'd be losing an apparent subsidy junky (according to many posters here)
and a bunch of MPs that can vote on English matters that don't affect them.

And why would you feel less British?

1) I don't know what your question is re "sabotage of the United Kingdom". Scotland wants independence from the United Kingdom. My point was self-evident and does not need explanation.


2) I agree that we would be losing a subsidised area, but it's the break-up that upsets me. The loss of the subsidies would merely be a consolation prize. As for the MPs, I totally agree with you - would be glad to get rid of them. Nevertheless, people on this forum are adamant that the Scots want a divorce from England, Wales and N. Ireland. I find that very sad. I'm sick of the whole thing, it's infuriating, and a folly on the part of the Scots.


3) I didn't say I would feel "less British". I was saying that I feel that I am firstly British and secondly English, in comparison with, it seems, the Scots, who appear to be Scottish first and British second, if at all. I feel that is a shame, as we are a stronger nation together. We belong together, not in separate little enclaves. It's shameful of the Scots to be doing this.

The_Angry_Jock

zagubov wrote: »

I was wondering whether those who have children there to be affected by the vote's outcome, have a tendency to vote one way or another, as they have to think of the long-term consequences rather than immediate benefits or problems.

I've got a 2 year old, other no & undecideds have toddlers, other yes voters do also. To me it just looks like another statement to discredit and shame those who haven't decided to vote yes.

angelcatcher

Yes

ifstar wrote: »

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There is also a number of large companies like RBS saying they may have to move HQ away from Edinburgh in the event of a yes win, losing thousands of jobs.

I saw this quote and had to comment. Banks like RBS and Lloyds that have said they are moving to England in the wake of a Yes vote. OK, fully their decision....... but they are still paying themselves huge bonuses when the UK taxpayer has bailed them out with little (or should that be perhaps nothing) in return.

My personal thought? Let the English have them if they so wish.
If they close branches up here and cut jobs, they will lose customers too. think of the people that like walking into a high street branch to bank. Those that don't want to do the online banking thing.
They will lose more customers that way if they cut jobs. But I am willing to see how that progresses.......

Things are different up here in Scotland. So why not let us govern ourselves?
I have an English friend that is very against independence, so I understand the frustration and anger over the subject.
I love hearing different opinions over the matter regardless of which side of the border you come from.
Perhaps it is a 'fevered dream' we have, but aren't us Scots known for being stubborn anyway?
It is an opportunity if nothing else to voice an opinion over our own future. Is that such a terrible thing?

Thrugelmir

angelcatcher wrote: »

OK, fully their decision....... but they are still paying themselves huge bonuses when the UK taxpayer has bailed them out with little

RBS's investment bankers don't work in Scotland.

angelcatcher

Yes

That is very true. But they have branches and customers here instead.

tberry6686

No

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

But since the Scots seemed determined to go, then go - go and don't come back.

Interesting that you think that the majority of us are determined to go when every poll taken so far has been a win for the no vote. Perhaps you know something that the pollsters don't or (more likely) you have been taken in by the media spin.