Can a disabled adult living in same household as parents claim housing benefit?

mike+caz

Indie_Kid wrote: »

It would be a total of £121.65 per week for ESA.

Indie Kid

If you don't mind me asking, where did you get that sum from for ESA?
My son has ESA [SG] but only gets £110.30 [£106 + £3 odd to add it up to what his IB was before changing to ESA].


OP You have my every sympathy I was in the same boat as you regarding transition. Coping with less money is very difficult especially when the needs of the disabled person remain the same.

Indie_Kid

mike+caz wrote: »

Indie Kid

If you don't mind me asking, where did you get that sum from for ESA?
My son has ESA [SG] but only gets £110.30 [£106 + £3 odd to add it up to what his IB was before changing to ESA].

I am on income based ESA and unlike your son, didn't migrate from IB. The figures are:
£71.70 - basic allowance
£15.55 - Disability income guarantee
£34.80 - support group component

Giving a total of £121.65 per week / £243.30 per fortnight.

If your son has no savings, no other income and no partner, he should be entitled to the top up to make £121.65 per week.

mike+caz

Indie_Kid wrote: »

I am on income based ESA and unlike your son, didn't migrate from IB. The figures are:
£71.70 - basic allowance
£15.55 - Disability income guarantee
£34.80 - support group component

Giving a total of £121.65 per week / £243.30 per fortnight.

If your son has no savings, no other income and no partner, he should be entitled to the top up to make £121.65 per week.

Thank you for your reply. He migrated from IB 2 yrs ago and has basically received the same sum ever since [so he's had no benefit increase since migrating]. He has no savings, no other income or a partner.
Will look into it and try benefit calculator first.

arrazello

mike+caz wrote: »

Indie Kid
OP You have my every sympathy I was in the same boat as you regarding transition. Coping with less money is very difficult especially when the needs of the disabled person remain the same.

Thanks for this and all the other kind words spoken. This has been appreciated. I guess I need to sit down and try and work out what our final position would be and then prepare mentally for that day and see if savings can be made anywhere?

arrazello

nannytone wrote: »

im not in your position, but i really feel for you.
child relayed benefits are quite generous, and many families with disabled children face this drop in income.
it is a fact that the system pays more ( via ctc and cb) for a child than it does for a single adult.
your sons needs will not decrease on the day he turns 20, but as a non dependant, he will be treated as an adult and finances decrease accordingly
the only disabled people that gain from the present system, is those that live alone and so attract additional premiums.
the fact that the costs involved with independant living are higher quickly eat up these extra premiums though

And thank you nannytone. It does seem extraordinary. I am finding it hard to wrap my head around the logic, particularly as in many respects, he does not even have the independence that a two year old might achieve. I understand that the state needs to distinguish between adult and child status for many reasons but still there does seem to be certain circumstances where an adult needs all the financial status/protection afforded a child.

ArtoDeeto

Sorry to hear about your situation.

Unfortunately I think it is very unlikely he will be able to claim housing benefit for renting from you - look up housing benefit and family members.

lovetowinacar

Sorry to hear of your situation. I really think more help needs to be delivered to people with severe disability and less to individuals with milder disabilities who receive very similar amounts for much less care. Example my sister in laws elderly grandmother gets higher rate disability and can move around albeit slowly and is disabled more by her age (92) than anything else but someone who is unable to move around unaided or has a severe learning disability and so needs 24 hour care would get the same rate as she does and she basically lives alone for much of the time and apart from help with shopping and DIY needs on her home is just elderly! Strange world

Housing_Benefit_Officer

You will no longer be parents with a disabled dependent child for benefit purposes and your own benefits will be cut to that received for a couple with no dependent children.

Your son will no longer be a dependent child but for benefit purposes as treated as an adult. Your benefits will reduce but your son will be able to claim the benefits he is entitled to as an adult.

If your son was a foster child you would be able to charge rent and he would be able to claim Housing Benefit once he turned 18. As he is your son you can charge him rent but Housing Benefit will never pay.

nannytone_2

lovetowinacar wrote: »

Sorry to hear of your situation. I really think more help needs to be delivered to people with severe disability and less to individuals with milder disabilities who receive very similar amounts for much less care. Example my sister in laws elderly grandmother gets higher rate disability and can move around albeit slowly and is disabled more by her age (92) than anything else but someone who is unable to move around unaided or has a severe learning disability and so needs 24 hour care would get the same rate as she does and she basically lives alone for much of the time and apart from help with shopping and DIY needs on her home is just elderly! Strange world

what you are suggesting is that only those virtually bed bound would receive the maximum help/
what you seem to be missing is that funding needs to be ained where it can make the most difference.
for instance...
i am blind but physically very fit ( for my age)
i use the gym 4 times a week and swim 4 times a week. i can walk until i am told to stop. i bever get a cough or a cold and enjoy excellent health. but i can tell if clothes are clean or dirty or what colour theyt are.
i cant be trusted to cook a meal.
i cant tell the difference between oven cleaner and deodrant.
i receive middle rate care and high rate mobility, i also have a care package in place with social services.
they feel it is important for a person of my age (50) to live as normal a life as possible and to still do the things i would if i were sighted.
our funding is being looked at and have been told that my level of funding is sdafe, but thos with lower needs are under threat.
so someone may be funded for 3 hours a week. i dont think its fair to remove their funding because they only need a little gelp because the help they receive is necessary to their wellbeing. id rather lose a few of my hours rather than see anyone lose everything.

disability is a very complicated area.
sifferent conditions produce different needs, and even 2 people with the same condition can have totally different problems.

to say someone doesnt have severe issues merely because they can walk and dont have a learning disability is extremely short sighted

SkyeKnight

arrazello wrote: »

And thank you nannytone. It does seem extraordinary. I am finding it hard to wrap my head around the logic, particularly as in many respects, he does not even have the independence that a two year old might achieve. I understand that the state needs to distinguish between adult and child status for many reasons but still there does seem to be certain circumstances where an adult needs all the financial status/protection afforded a child.

I don't think there is any logic apart from the obsession with "child poverty". You hear those words everywhere - blah, blah, reducing child poverty, ending child poverty, etc and yet I think "poverty" is just as important. As far as I can see the government and Europe Union only have targets for child poverty but when that child becomes an adult whether they are rich or poor suddenly becomes unimportant!