No gas supplier, no MPRN, not on National Grid

dah5609

Alt wrote: »

I am still trying to recover from the shock of a £8000 gas bill for 18 months of usage :eek:

Well, the house is 4 stories, 250 years old, Grade 2 listed, and has 13 ft high ceilings with 12 foot high windows (single glazed) so its pretty draughty in winter even with the radiators full on....

Not the most practical house to live in, but we saw it in August and it looked so nice and inviting...;)

chanz4

They will estimate the figure, and it wont be in your favour

dogshome

"Renting part of an old house...." Is the rest of the house empty with you living in a just a few rooms, or is the building divided up into other occupied flats?

If it's the 2nd, knock on your neighbors doors and ask who supplies their gas, and even then there is a chance that meter you are reading is only a sub-meter, and the main meter that the supplier is issueing bills for is somewhere else in the building - Which means that whoever is paying those bills has forgotten to bill you for your share

Alligg

We have had a similar thing with our new build,our gas meter was not registered with anyone and the MPRN number did not match our property,we are getting gas from someone but who? The electric is with Npower but they say they are not providing the gas even though the building company say that is who they registered with.
Struggling to get a final electric bill from Npower for the electric so we can change supplier but no idea what to do about the gas.

chanz4

Get them to search on your meter serial number, your likely to be on an IGT

macman

dah5609 wrote: »

Well I only moved in September 2012 so won't be liable beyond that. If its shipperless, how will they know how much to charge as I presume they will have no record of meter reading

Did you not take a meter reading on the day you took over the property?
If not then they may have a closing reading from the last occupier.

dah5609

There was a meter reading taken by the inventory company dated January 2012, but we didn't move in until end of August 2012. I think the house was not really occupied from Jan-Sept 2012, landlord probably had heat on low to avoid damp issues.

Even if I have a start and finish meter reading, that doesn't help me in working out which company I owe the gas bill to....

macman

Aaargh! Never trust a LL, agent or 3rd party to do meter reads, always do them yourself-it's your bill. If your lease runs from 1/12 then you will be responsible for the standing charges and other usage from then. if your LL has agreed to cover this period then that is a 3rd party agreement and not the concern of the supplier.
I would have thought that the amount of the bill was your primary concern? Without verifiable readings you'll be unable to easily dispute the bill, once it's eventually produced.
Your calcuations on the amount of £8k owing seem unfeasible: on what no. of meter units is this calculated, and is it a metric or imperial meter? If you've used the wrong conversion factor then the bill will increase by nearly 3 times.

dah5609

I know - I should have done the readings myself - part of the reason was I didn't even know where the gas meter was until a few months ago - no excuses I know !!

Meter reading as at 27/1/12 was 66560 (according to 3rd party), as of today it is 85024. Reading is in cubic metres.

Bluebirdman_of_Alcathays

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dah5609 wrote: »

I know - I should have done the readings myself - part of the reason was I didn't even know where the gas meter was until a few months ago - no excuses I know !!

Meter reading as at 27/1/12 was 66560 (according to 3rd party), as of today it is 85024. Reading is in cubic metres.

Wow, I make that over 200MWh!

Assuming you have £8k lying around there's nothing to really worry about :beer: