new sign on a road near me

qetu1357

says no entry for cars and motorbikes except for access

what does access mean!?

Netwizard

Access to property usually

purple45

I'd say this means that if you live there or are visiting you can drive down it to your destination. But you can't use the road as a cut through to get somewhere else.

londonTiger

I'm out of this forum due to constant bullying by forum members

Lum

If it's the sign I'm thinking of, it means no motorbike stunts unless you have a really old credit card.

(joke. Purple45 already gave the correct answer.)

qetu1357

purple45 wrote: »

I'd say this means that if you live there or are visiting you can drive down it to your destination. But you can't use the road as a cut through to get somewhere else.

That's what I thought.

But how can the council tell that you live there and/or are visiting and not using it as a cut through?

victor2

qetu1357 wrote: »

That's what I thought.

But how can the council tell that you live there and/or are visiting and not using it as a cut through?

It gives them (or the police) the right to stop people leaving or entering the road and ask them where they have been or are going.
A small lane crossing a common near us became a shortcut a couple of years ago when major roadworks were underway. Using it saved drivers a couple of miles on the official detour, but the road was totally unsuitable for the heavy traffic it started getting. The police eventually stopped people entering, asking them where they were going. There were only a few farms along the road, so people not admitting to those were sent back to the main road. The message that it was not a shortcut soon got through to everyone.

alastairq

..as victor2 says.....like all regulations that can generate offenses....commit them at your peril...somewhere, sometime, someone with a warrant card will observe and take action....as happened recently to an LGV driver who ignored a 7.5 tonne weight limit, drove from one end of the road to the other, followed by an unmarked Police car...who let the driver get a fair way along the next main road before pulling him over..for a chat...

thenudeone

"except for access" means - except when you need to enter the zone in order to access to premises which could not be accessed without entering the zone.

It can be implemented very stupidly, though.

Near me, the council wanted to stop HGVs using a short-cut which leads to a village (and then to a trunk road) so they made a 50m section of the road (outside the village) "7.5T weight limit except for access".
This does indeed prohibit the road being used as a short cut. But it also means any HGV with a legitimate reason to visit the village is supposed to take a 4-mile diversion. It can't legally enter the "except for access" section of the road because it is possible to access the village without going through the "except for access" zone.
The council should obviously have made the village part of the zone, so that any HGVs needing to access it from any direction could do so by the most direct route. But that would have been far too sensible...

Strider590

Sometimes residents moan and whine so much about parking, speeding or non-residents using the road, that the local council put in double yellows, speed bumps or silly signs JUST to shut them up.

Where my GF lives, they've got residents moaning about the school run traffic parking and blocking driveways, there was almost a street fight the other morning when some old git had a go at someone blocking their drive (doesn't even have a car).

I'm not defending the idiot in the standard school run tonka toy, but the old guy was as much of an idiot.

Some people have nothing better to worry about and some people are stupid enough to buy houses next to 100+ year old schools or on roads that are used as "rat runs" (or next to rivers and flood plains for that matter).

Prothet_of_Doom

Strider590 wrote: »

Sometimes residents moan and whine so much about parking, speeding or non-residents using the road, that the local council put in double yellows, speed bumps or silly signs JUST to shut them up.

My parents were ousted from the neighbourhood watch because they refused to sign a petition for Double yellows are traffic calming.

My father's point, was that the police have powers to stop people speeding, and they have powers to stop people parking half on the pavement and half on the road, and actually cars parked on the road were very effective traffic calming anyway.