Accident at t junction! Who's fault?

photome

fivetide wrote: »

So how did they end up behind you flashing their lights?

I wondered the same thing?

In hindsight and maybe a thoght for next time, if you (OP) had let the car turn right in to the road you were exiting you would then have had a clear view of the road to your left and this could have been avoided.

Sorry OP but 100% your fault

mattyprice4004

fivetide wrote: »

So how did they end up behind you flashing their lights?

Clarification on this point needed.

Also, I struggle to understand how you are blaming the other driver. If he appeared out of nowhere, you obviously couldn't see the traffic approaching from the left, and shouldn't have proceeded.

Cars don't just appear from nowhere!

two_empty_pockets

Hard to explain without a drawing. If you can imagine the nose of a car sticking out at an angle to turn right is how I was positioned. Then as I went to go the car and my bumper hit. Looking at the damage the other car caught my bumper as I has a scuff and there's was a slightly scratched bumper and a dented arch. A biker may be smaller but the head highly would be higher and there speed would have been consistent so would have seen them coming from behind the car. And after revisiting the junction this evening you would not get two cars next to each other unless the one overtaking on the left went onto the drop curb.the car waiting to turn right couldn't go until I went as the corner is tight and would of needed to slightly cut the corner.

photome

two_empty_pockets wrote: »

Hard to explain without a drawing. If you can imagine the nose of a car sticking out at an angle to turn right is how I was positioned. Then as I went to go the car and my bumper hit. Looking at the damage the other car caught my bumper as I has a scuff and there's was a slightly scratched bumper and a dented arch. A biker may be smaller but the head highly would be higher and there speed would have been consistent so would have seen them coming from behind the car. And after revisiting the junction this evening you would not get two cars next to each other unless the one overtaking on the left went onto the drop curb.the car waiting to turn right couldn't go until I went as the corner is tight and would of needed to slightly cut the corner.

why would a bikers speed be consistent, and still unsure why the headlights were behind you, or did you keep driving after the collision and then the car you hit ended up behind you.

However you word it you shouldnt have pulled out if you couldnt see that the road was clear

Nodding_Donkey

I think the op is what is technically known as 'clutching at straws'

Just suck it up and deal with it OP

two_empty_pockets

like i said hard to explain how the car ended up behind without a drawing. I drove forward after the collision as the impact wasn't bad enough to cause the vehicles to be stuck in any way. they barely touched. A bikes speed would be consistent because if he didn't think he could get through, or it was tight he would wait. If not then he's an !!!!. I am a biker so I do understand the logistics where as most car drivers only drive a car and only care what's in front of them not around. I'm not clutching at straws. I'm not saying 'it's not my fault' just asking on opinion as I don't work for an insurance company.

goonarmy

So are we saying "failure to stop" too?

---lee---

Sorry OP, but this sort of nonsese makes my blood boil. I seem to spend most of my driving time avoiding 'incidents' like this.

You were emerging from a minor road with give way lines. That means you give way. If you fail to give way and the result is an accident, that is 100% your fault. I don't understand how so many people manage to get a driving license yet seem to have little or no comprhension of the rules of the road.

Richard53

Four people at fault here. The two who helpfully signalled another road user to do something (specifically advised against in the HC), the OP who pulled out in front of a vehicle travelling legally, and the driver of the car he hit. If you are driving along a road and see a car in the centre ahead of you turning right, and a car facing you waiting for something to happen, does it not occur to you to ask what was going on, and perhaps be aware that a car may emerge from the side road? If I'm on the bike and a situation like that arises, I am on maximum alert for something unexpected. Slow down, change down, cover the brakes, eyes peeled, etc. On a bike, it's not a bent wheel arch, it's your leg.

No-one comes out of this well, but the OP is the one making the manoeuvre and therefore the one who is technically at fault. The other driver did nothing wrong, but with a bit of care could have avoided a collision.

photome

Richard53 wrote: »

. The other driver did nothing wrong, but with a bit of care could have avoided a collision.

Agreed but that wasnt the question