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FENSA - what's all the fuss about?

FENSA - what's all the fuss about lost certificates? I ask because it's easy to download a replacement certificate from the FENSA website, and it only costs £12. My solicitor was all set to hold up exchange pending production of the certificate, but if it is this easy why bother?
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  • tom9980
    tom9980 Posts: 1,990 Forumite
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    It's crazy the paperwork now being required. I know of a case where a buyer pulled out because the roof didnt meet current building regs! laughable frankly only houses built in the last few years would meet all current regulations, the important thing is does it work and is it safe? if yes carry on.
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  • pinkteapot
    pinkteapot Posts: 8,044 Forumite
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    Shouldn't hold up exchange. Got a phone call from my solicitor a couple of weeks before exchange:

    Solicitor: Your buyers have asked if you've got the FENSA certificate?
    Me: No, we don't have it.
    Solicitor: Can I order a copy and charge you the £12?
    Me: Yep.

    *shrug*
  • QTPie
    QTPie Posts: 1,373 Forumite
    I was not impressed with them... Took them 5/6 weeks to provide the copy (and that included MANY phonecalls to chase!). Was very not impressed!
  • The solicitor can also organise and insurance policy to cover the windows - think it costs £30. I bought a repossession and that's what my solicitor did. No cert - take out an insurance policy and there are no hold ups.
  • silvercar
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    GDB2222 wrote: »
    FENSA - what's all the fuss about lost certificates? I ask because it's easy to download a replacement certificate from the FENSA website, and it only costs £12. My solicitor was all set to hold up exchange pending production of the certificate, but if it is this easy why bother?

    The problem occurs when "lost" certificates turn out to never having existed in the first place. The windows unregistered because they were cash in hand jobs or the windows were not compliant.

    That said we changed our windows gradually in 4 rounds. Round 1 was a single window and never registered:o. Round 4 got registered twice, so I now have certificates for more windows than I have.
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  • ging84
    ging84 Posts: 912 Forumite
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    fensa is a completely pointless quango
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 19,081 Forumite
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    FENSA - what's all the fuss about?

    How many houses have windows without FENSA certificates and how many of those windows fall out of their frames, or window apertures?
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  • Mrs_Z
    Mrs_Z Posts: 1,126 Forumite
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    We are first time sellers and when we bought our house in 1996, I don't ever remember seeing any guarantees on the double glazed windows. Is this something that has been brought into force since?
  • greenface
    greenface Posts: 4,871 Forumite
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    Mrs_Z wrote: »
    We are first time sellers and when we bought our house in 1996, I don't ever remember seeing any guarantees on the double glazed windows. Is this something that has been brought into force since?
    Fenstration certificates are recent and as said a waste of time quango. I have now opted out from fensa for a few reasons but it worth more hassle than being part of it and the "expert they sent out was an old workmate who wasnt very good ". All items i use and fit carry a kitemark inc screws and silicone. All councils can give an indemnity certificate for around £100 if your thinking of selling . there are ways around even needing a fensa cert (tell the sellers solicitors they were in when you moved in ) (tell them you fitted them yourself) I have seen a multi cert recently covering windows/boiler/insulation/timberproofing/roofing etc . A good idea but ive never met a expert in all fields.
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  • pinkshoes
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    silvercar wrote: »
    The problem occurs when "lost" certificates turn out to never having existed in the first place. The windows unregistered because they were cash in hand jobs or the windows were not compliant.

    Hmmm, we had a front door fitted by Safestyle which we then got a FENSA certificate for, which clearly states just one front door.

    Most the other double glazed windows in our property are old, and presumably don't have FENSA certificates, and another window and door was fitted by ourselves, as BIL used to be a builder so is perfectly capable of fitting such things.

    So what will happen when we sell when we don't have FENSA certificates and can't get them?
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