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jacklink
jacklink Posts: 778 Forumite
edited 9 March 2014 at 1:01AM in Child support
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  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    Child's child will be your grandchild. Many grandparents like to contribute if they can.
  • jacklink
    jacklink Posts: 778 Forumite
    edited 9 March 2014 at 12:59AM
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  • jacklink wrote: »
    a lovely post tomtontom but its not my grandchild, its my husbands, my step grandchild i guess, i wont have anything to do with it (not through choice) , parental alienation syndrome has seen to that issue. in all honesty im not bothered, it may seem harsh but im telling the truth, (do many on here ?).

    it may seem harsh but my dog needs dental treatment and he is my main concern at the moment.

    you could swap that around to be fair, if its not your grandchild, your not making any payments, your partner is, so why is it your concern?
  • I think that the reason that Jacklink has wrote that statement, is that if Jacklinks partner is still stuck on CSA1 (1993 scheme) then her wage is taken into account on the maintenance assesment as they go on the total houshold income of both N.R.P. and N.R.P.P. as the CSA say that the N.R.P.P. can contribute to half of the living costs so the N.R.P. will have more disposable income for the assesment, also its up to 30% of the assement, but they only name the N.R.P. on the paperwork, and remember CSA1 is up to 30% of the total household income!! So really Jacklink is also subsidising the CSA payments aswell,
    I am looking forward to when I finish my CSA1 payments as then my g/f can move in with me, because if she does before it finishes then the CSA told me that my payments will go up....
  • Of course it's her concern! The money is coming out of her household and over the years she will have supported her husband in making the payments and supporting his child. Too many of us have seen the pain and deep sadness that the paying parent experences when contact is disrupted, and we have to help pick up the pieces - we have to be strong for them. A lot of step parents care deeply about their step children, even through the difficult times and I can fully understand the feelings expressed re needing to continue payments.
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    So what's your point? Pay if you still feel a responsibility tiara your step daughter on behalf of your husband, maybe giving it to her directly which is a choice your now have or if you don't care then celebrate that you will now have more money to spend on yourself.
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    jacklink wrote: »
    we are coming toward the end of csa payments, or so we believe, correspondence has been sparse, basically said qualifying child is due to give birth and will be claiming cb i presume (therefore the mother of said child cant therefore csa ceases) or at least thats what were led to believe.

    AIUI - If the new mother is still living at home, the grandmother can claim the CB for the grandchild and so receive CB for child and grandchild.

    https://www.hmrc.gov.uk/childbenefit/people-advise-others/behalf-someone-else.htm#3
    Claiming on behalf of your child
    If a child you're responsible for has a baby, you can claim Child Benefit for both of them. If you're already getting Child Benefit for your child let the Child Benefit Office know that you want to claim for their baby as well.
  • Crellow4
    Crellow4 Posts: 276 Forumite
    jarhead66 wrote: »
    I think that the reason that Jacklink has wrote that statement, is that if Jacklinks partner is still stuck on CSA1 (1993 scheme) then her wage is taken into account on the maintenance assesment as they go on the total houshold income of both N.R.P. and N.R.P.P. as the CSA say that the N.R.P.P. can contribute to half of the living costs so the N.R.P. will have more disposable income for the assesment,

    I've outlined below how partners income is treated and how the PWC must apply for a Departure for partners contribution to housing costs to be considered. If Jacklink and her husband have joint children then her ability to contribute to her own children is considered - that's why her income details are required. The Protected Income calculation was introduced to consider financial commitments to second families.

    also its up to 30% of the assement, but they only name the N.R.P. on the paperwork, and remember CSA1 is up to 30% of the total household income!!

    This is incorrect - it's 30% of the NRPs income only.

    I am looking forward to when I finish my CSA1 payments as then my g/f can move in with me, because if she does before it finishes then the CSA told me that my payments will go up....

    Your payments are unlikely to go up if your girlfriend moves in. In the basic assessment her income is only considered in the Protected a Income calculation. As you pay the lowest of the 3 calculations, it will make no difference to your liability. If the PWC applies for a Departure for your partners income yo be considered as available to contribute to your housing costs (rent/mortgage) then there's a chance of an increase - but it's not guaranteed.
  • Thanks for your reply crellow4, You use the words unlikely/chance why can't the CSA just give a yes it will go up or a no it won't.

    When i moved house last year within two weeks the CSA sent me a letter stating that they had recieved information that my G/F was now living with me and could i forward either her last 6 weekly wage slips or last two months wage slips. I then had to send them a copy of my council tax letter that showed my 25% discount to prove that I lived by myself. The letter also stated that I would get up to a £1000 fine for false information, well why wasn't my ex fined for false information??? rather strange!!!

    A few years ago I did contact the CSA to find out how much my payments would go up by, and was told that they wouldn't tell me until after she had moved in!!
    All this could have been avoided if we had all been moved over to CSA2 which I know is not perfect but alot better than CSA1 as it doesn't effect the N.R.P.P. in anyway.
  • Jarhead66, I think you are wise to wait. My husband is still on CSA 1 and if I had understood the impact it would have on my ability to provide for my own children as they were growing up I would have waited. His CSA payments increased significantly when we married. Keep in mind that if your girlfriend has children who live with her there are other things to think about too eg your full income (without any allowance for what is paid to CSA) will be taken into account when assessing the funding they are entitled to for university.
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