Effect of Scottish Independence Vote

TCA

jamesd wrote: »

Right, but he shouldn't expect anyone outside Scotland with a clue to believe him on the currency argument, because it just doesn't make sense for the rest to agree to it unless it's accompanied by pretty thorough control over the fiscal and budgetary policy of the independent Scotland.

I'm puzzled at two things.

Firstly, why did none of the unionist parties dismiss the idea of a currency union straight away when the SNP White Paper came out in November? That would have taken the wind right out the nationalist sail. Or perhaps they really hadn't ruled it out at that stage.

And secondly, why would the SNP choose a currency union as their preferred option, when there was probably little chance of them getting it, even prior to the latest announcements, unless under extremely strict conditions? Were they willing to accept such conditions and thought the UK would go for it? Or Salmond just fancied chancing his arm knowing fine well he wouldn't get it and secretly prefers other options less favoured by the Scottish electorate?

sniffles

All the points of view are worthless. The SILENT majority of Scots will get rid of the fat dictator.
The UK is too small to dissect, and we all love our country, Great Britain.. I think that is what my Dad fought for.
Vote No.

atush

black_taxi wrote: »

see scotland from my kitchen window

I actually can, but beside that I wondered if ANYONE would get the Sara palin reference lol

Douze Points

talexuser

atush wrote: »

I actually can, but beside that I wondered if ANYONE would get the Sara palin reference

Well since you can see them, then that qualifies you with the experience to be deputy Prime Minister.

jamesd

TCA wrote: »

Firstly, why did none of the unionist parties dismiss the idea of a currency union straight away when the SNP White Paper came out in November? That would have taken the wind right out the nationalist sail. Or perhaps they really hadn't ruled it out at that stage.

Or maybe as a political gambit to let their opponent dig a hole. Or maybe things just take time and they were doing other things.

TCA wrote: »

And secondly, why would the SNP choose a currency union as their preferred option, when there was probably little chance of them getting it, even prior to the latest announcements, unless under extremely strict conditions? Were they willing to accept such conditions and thought the UK would go for it? Or Salmond just fancied chancing his arm knowing fine well he wouldn't get it and secretly prefers other options less favoured by the Scottish electorate?

Apparently Scottish voters like the Pound and it was seen as desirable to promise that the Pound would be kept, as a way of increasing the chance of a yes vote.

It's worth remembering that this is a vote yes and you get one vote only situation, so a political objective is to say whatever it takes to get people to vote yes, with voters stuck with what happens next even if it's not what they were told would happen.

lvader

How do you think the rest of Europe will feel if the UK votes to leave the EU?

innovate

Not sure what this has to do with Scotland but since you ask: I reckon most of them would be delighted to see the back of Cameron and also Farage.

Triumph13

TCA wrote: »

I'd almost say devo max would get overwhelming support on the ballot paper. The problem is that no political party backs it and so there's no way to implement it.

No problem with devo max, just as long as rUK gets it too. If you devolve any more powers to Scotland without tackling the West Lothian Question, then you'll start to get quite a head of steam behind a demand for a referendum on independence South of the border.

planteria

TCA wrote: »

All I'm saying is that he's put forward his preferred option for a currency union. Regardless of what statements come out of Westminster, he's hardly likely to just jump to another option. At least not yet........

but by persisting with a plan that clearly can't work he makes a fool of himself. whether he makes some people in Scotland think that George Osborne is "unreasonable" in the process, well.. does it matter, to anyone? AS is trying to argue a point about which there is no argument. he's wrong, and it's obvious to anyone with the ability and willingness to understand.

planteria

TCA wrote: »

Ah but it is a game. Politicians campaign for all sorts of things they can't get. Give it time. Plan B will emerge eventually.

in the meantime, he'll raise a few smiles if he's lucky