DLA for child - none financial benefits.

DerbyDD

I am gonna bump this "bump" There is a second way.

Morglin

tinkledom wrote: »

Not actually had one, but one of my grandchildren is severely disabled. He is Autistic plus a whole load of other things.
The school do very little for him, although he is under the care the local health clinic. He can be a nightmare, he thinks everything around him is contaminated, you have to give him an list of where he will go, when, what food he will eat etc. He is extremely violent.


My daughter refuses to accept any form of 'badge' that people want to say he is and refuses to claim any form of benefit for him.
My daughter is the only one that he will relate to. And to be honest I doubt very much that he could get any better care and understanding from anybody else.

If he is that disruptive, I can only applaud the school for not pushing for a support worker for him, and coping with it themselves.

And the parents of other children for not causing a fuss, as many would.

Very few mainstream schools can cope with a severely autistic child, without strategies and a support worker in place.

This isn't about benefits - it's about getting proper help and support with a child's educational needs, which needs statementing.

As for 'badges', well if he has been medically diagnosed with Autism and other things, then he has already been 'labelled', so I don't quite get the logic.

There are a few sites, for autistic children and carers, that are experienced, and advise on all this.


Lin

tinkledom

Morglin wrote: »

If he is that disruptive, I can only applaud the school for not pushing for a support worker for him, and coping with it themselves.

And the parents of other children for not causing a fuss, as many would.

Very few mainstream schools can cope with a severely autistic child, without strategies and a support worker in place.

This isn't about benefits - it's about getting proper help and support with a child's educational needs, which needs statementing.

As for 'badges', well if he has been medically diagnosed with Autism and other things, then he has already been 'labelled', so I don't quite get the logic.

There are a few sites, for autistic children and carers, that are experienced, and advise on all this.


Lin

The primary school in question has a fully fitted out sensory room, yet it is never used as there is no one qualified enough to use it with a child.
The school see children like my grandson as needing a little extra help which the teachers and TA's try to provide.
It is quite a small school and most if not all of the parents are fully aware of the children that need help and are never judgemental.
As I have said he does have outside help, limited that it is, but my daughter seems to have the capability to cope with him on her own.
Yes he has been diagnosed, but to be honest that means nothing to most people other than the little lad is different in some ways.
By labelling I mean 'statemented' That is something that she does not want as it is recorded in his education file and that it will follow him to the senior school and beyond.
My comments were centred around the fact that parents seem to cheer when their little one is recorded as 'unable to cope in a mainstream system'. As for tutoring, my daughter does all of the extra that he needs at home. He has his own 'chill out' zone at home, fully kitted out for his needs.

Morglin

Well, when he goes to senior school, they will surely realise that that he is Autistic anyway?

Primary schools give reports on the child, statemented or not, and Autism, of the level you describe, cannot really be concealed.

A senior school is also very likely to be a much larger school.

Up to your daughter, of course, but the support is there, albeit it is sometimes a struggle to get.

And, just for the record, I have known a lot of parents with disabled bled kids, and never once have I known one "cheer" about it!

Parents, with very few, if any, exceptions, would gladly forgo support and benefits, if it meant their child was, fit, healthy and thriving.

You have a very strange attitude to life, as you seem to think that disability is just about benefits. You say you are disabled, so why is it that you cannot seem to see that disability is 24/7 and not just a way to get benefits!

Again, I don't know anyone disabled, who would not gladly give back their benefits, if they were made fit again.

Lin

tinkledom

Morglin wrote: »

And, just for the record, I have known a lot of parents with disabled bled kids, and never once have I known one "cheer" about it!


Lin

Then you haven't been reading the posts on this site for the past 3/4 years. There have been many that actually rejoiced knowing that it would now make it more possible for them to claim DLA for their kiddie and receive a substantial award.


I personally know of a family where two of their children were used as pawns so that they could increase the income pot, but also to have a his and hers Motability cars. The parents saw nothing wrong in what they were doing - they pushed for it, not for the child's sake but for their own selfish needs. Mind you one of the cars has recently been snatched back after the family were reported to the DWP and one child lost the DLA award.

A_Flock_Of_Sheep

And here was me with the cockeyed notion that this part of the forum was for disabled people to discuss benefits, benefit related issues and "dosh" related issued with other like minded people.

Seems to me people attempt to do that only to be shot down in flames by a few venomous and bitter individuals who love nothing more than to keep spouting their own spin on the benefits system and eligibility criteria and descriptors.

"my disability or my partner's is worse than yours"

"I am disabled, my benefit has been cut, stopped, sanctioned and so should yours be because I am more disabled than you".

"The DWP said no so you shouldn't get anything either because I think I am worse than you".

"I choose not to claim and therefore neither should you and if you do I will find copious reasons why you shouldn't"

blah blah blah blah blah (((YAWWWWWWWN)))

SOUND FAMILIAR?

So if you don't want to claim any state benefits due to some personal moral crusade that's fine. Just stop inflicting it on others and patronising them.

In any event if you don't want to to claim why are you even here? I can only conclude it is because you think it's jolly good fun derailing any one else who does.

Honestly guys it really is quite sad and exceptionally pathetic.

Morglin

tinkledom wrote: »

Then you haven't been reading the posts on this site for the past 3/4 years. There have been many that actually rejoiced knowing that it would now make it more possible for them to claim DLA for their kiddie and receive a substantial award.


I personally know of a family where two of their children were used as pawns so that they could increase the income pot, but also to have a his and hers Motability cars. The parents saw nothing wrong in what they were doing - they pushed for it, not for the child's sake but for their own selfish needs. Mind you one of the cars has recently been snatched back after the family were reported to the DWP and one child lost the DLA award.

Well, I have been a member of this site for 8 years, (and used the same name the whole time lol) and not come across all this cheering and jubilation in respect of having either a disability or a disabled child. :doh:

I have seen posts where parents are relieved that they have received benefits to make the child's life easier, as I have with adults that need the benefits to live even a reasonable life - you are also claiming benefits, so not sure where your thoughts of any 'moral high ground' can come from! :whistle:

As for "people you know", well, it's a funny old thing as whenever someone is trying to insult those receiving benefits, they always know of someone 'defrauding' the system.....:T

But, all your sniping about who should be getting what just makes you look a bit of a daft old hypocrite, as you are also claiming what you can get and you are no different to anyone else claiming benefits, whatever you may think!

Lin

A_Flock_Of_Sheep

Yes I have noticed how a lot of the spouters always seem to know someone who won't claim benefits but are in the same or worse position than the poster on here. It's usually a friend they know a friend of a friend or a family member they seem to find in the woodwork they can pull out of the hat to merrily patronise the person posting on here.

How the fact sharing the titbit of non-claiming friends etc. is even relevant and can actually assist the person on here I can't conclude.

tinkledom

Morglin wrote: »

But, all your sniping about who should be getting what just makes you look a bit of a daft old hypocrite, as you are also claiming what you can get and you are no different to anyone else claiming benefits, whatever you may think!

Lin

The only difference is that we are dropping our claims for benefits one by one. The first being my wife's Attendance allowance claim, she will not be renewing it after having had it suspended as they believe that because of the aids and adaptions that are now in place she no longer has the same level of needs. the second will be my DLA claim (HRM&MRC) when it comes my turn to be moved over to PIP. I believe that I will not qualify for the new benefit so will not claim it. Thirdly my ESA (Support Group) will cease in June as I will be 65. I will not be claiming my State Pension as I will not need that income. And finally my Guaranteed Pension Credit claim will cease as the 'Appropriate Amount' will be drastically reduced by virtue of the loss of the Attendance Allowance and Carers Allowance which is attached to it as well as the DLA and the Carers Allowance attached to that, plus they will reduce it further as they will deem that I will receive my State Pension when I won't.


So I am doing mt bit in reducing the drain on the Welfare budget - are you doing anything similar to help out or maybe you are suggesting that others follow suit? I doubt it.

cattermole

JUST IGNORE

It's bunkum