NRP possibly commited crime

pemalu

Hi,

I'll try to cut long story short as the long story is very complicated. NRP reported a much lower income to CSA so I appealed in August 2012 for June 2012 decision. In 2013 Tribunal agreed that the pay NRP received and payslips shown (May-July 2012) did not accruately reflect normal amount of earnings.

Through the tribunal's paperwork, I learned that in April 2012 he earned a lot more than what CSA considered but as this is April and the Tribunal was considering June's decision, this is a different decision than what was appealed.

The April's decision was never previously appealed as I didn't have this paper. However, it is obvious now that CSA had a different amount of earnings when making the April's decision.

At the moment, I have opportunity to go to Upper Tribunal with regard to the June's decision.

How do I go about appealing the April's decision, now that it appears NRP had submitted payslip which is not reflective to his earning?

What would happen if he is commiting crime? He is currently on DOE.

Many thanks for your input.

Poppie68

pemalu wrote: »

Hi,

I'll try to cut long story short as the long story is very complicated. NRP reported a much lower income to CSA so I appealed in August 2012 for June 2012 decision. In 2013 Tribunal agreed that the pay NRP received and payslips shown (May-July 2012) did not accruately reflect normal amount of earnings.

Through the tribunal's paperwork, I learned that in April 2012 he earned a lot more than what CSA considered but as this is April and the Tribunal was considering June's decision, this is a different decision than what was appealed.

The April's decision was never previously appealed as I didn't have this paper. However, it is obvious now that CSA had a different amount of earnings when making the April's decision.

At the moment, I have opportunity to go to Upper Tribunal with regard to the June's decision.

How do I go about appealing the April's decision, now that it appears NRP had submitted payslip which is not reflective to his earning?

What would happen if he is commiting crime? He is currently on DOE.

Many thanks for your input.

What do you want to happen?

You can either except what he has been assesed at and go on with your life, and concentrate on creating a happy life and home for your children. Or you can become obsessed with trying to prove the NRP is a bad parent, and create an unhappy life and envioroment for your children.

If he is a lying, cheating lowlife let the children discover this themselves when they are older and better equipped to deal with issues surrounding the fallout between their parents.

pemalu

Poppie,

NRP does not see the children, DOE was imposed because he did not comply to CSA. Leave the parenting to me, I'm doing my best on my own. I am not looking for moral opinion here, I have my best friends for that. The children suffered enough, the least the NRP can do is stop cheating them financially too. I am therefore asking what will happen if he is proven to comit a crime. If you don't know then please do not get involved.

DUTR

pemalu wrote: »

Poppie,

NRP does not see the children, DOE was imposed because he did not comply to CSA. Leave the parenting to me, I'm doing my best on my own. I am not looking for moral opinion here, I have my best friends for that. The children suffered enough, the least the NRP can do is stop cheating them financially too. I am therefore asking what will happen if he is proven to comit a crime. If you don't know then please do not get involved.

If it really is a crime then he may get sent to prison, then he is not liable for anything, so what Poppie writes is actually good advice, it's no point snapping the repliers head off just because you don't like the reply, after all it's a public forum, take from it what you wish.

Poppie68

pemalu wrote: »

Poppie,

NRP does not see the children, DOE was imposed because he did not comply to CSA. Leave the parenting to me, I'm doing my best on my own. I am not looking for moral opinion here, I have my best friends for that. The children suffered enough, the least the NRP can do is stop cheating them financially too. I am therefore asking what will happen if he is proven to comit a crime. If you don't know then please do not get involved.

You asked a question on a public forum and i replied..i also gave you some good advice.

EDIT: I have removed my post as it is something private i thought would actually help the OP to see how far things can go..i am gutted i divulged such a sensitive issue to someone so rude and obnoxious.

pemalu

DUTR,

I thought that prison and non payment is what might happen but I thought I'd check.

As to Poppie's reply, regretfully I disagree. This forum should be where public attempt to find answers, not a place where people take liberty to comment and judge, without being part of solution. There's Daily Mail for that.

Poppie68

pemalu wrote: »

DUTR,

I thought that prison and non payment is what might happen but I thought I'd check.

As to Poppie's reply, regretfully I disagree. This forum should be where public attempt to find answers, not a place where people take liberty to comment and judge, without being part of solution. There's Daily Mail for that.

You know what wallow in it love...i was actually trying to give you some advice but if you want to be obnoxious about it just crack on.....oh and good luck with the prison option...i can tell you now it isn't going to happen..you may get a charge put onto his house but prison never happens.

DUTR

pemalu wrote: »

DUTR,

I thought that prison and non payment is what might happen but I thought I'd check.

As to Poppie's reply, regretfully I disagree. This forum should be where public attempt to find answers, not a place where people take liberty to comment and judge, without being part of solution. There's Daily Mail for that.

The forum is a place where the public attempt to find answers, but from the position of the original poster, some of the answers you may get are based upon experience, the csa can adopt sanctions but they rarely do (they cannot send somebody to prison the courts have to do that) . Sadly also they are getting less involved as there is a cost and nobody gets that cost back.

Csa_Survivor

pemalu wrote: »

What would happen if he is commiting crime?

Probably the same thing will happen as when a PWC fraudulently carries on claiming child benefit for a child that no longer qualifies for it, in other words, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Lovetoread

I agree with Poppie68 & DUTR.

It's only going to cause you more stress. You've stated the kids don't see their father, so I can only assume you don't either and you're quite bitter about it (apologies if I'm utterly wrong). I think it would be far healthier to focus all your energy on bringing up your children as best as you can.

I'd like to throw something out there, this may back fire on me and I apologise if anyone takes offence. If you and the father were still together, or you and any partner for that matter, and they were earning a bit of extra cash in hand and not declaring it (I'm not talking thousands here, but maybe a couple of hundred a month), would you force them to be honest, declare it and pay tax on it? I don't think so. This is kinda similar, in a way.

Good luck to you and your children for the future.

shoe*diva79

Lovetoread wrote: »

I'd like to throw something out there, this may back fire on me and I apologise if anyone takes offence. If you and the father were still together, or you and any partner for that matter, and they were earning a bit of extra cash in hand and not declaring it (I'm not talking thousands here, but maybe a couple of hundred a month), would you force them to be honest, declare it and pay tax on it? I don't think so. This is kinda similar, in a way.

Altho I can see what you mean here, i dont think its similar because if her partner was earning some cash in hand then it would be going to benefit the household - including the children. If the children's father is doing it now its not benefitting the children whatsoever.