'We lost everything gambling on shares'

Luz

ChesterDog wrote: »

I did not say corruption is okay.

I said it (real or imagined) has no bearing on whose fault this situation is.

But then I think you know that, but chose to ignore it.

Not at all .those peoples got their money already . ..The problem here is you all, or most, DO NOT SEE THROUGH YOU,R BLINKERS or you are in the same business .This institution is going down ,day by day ,.huge fines ,( 1.5 billion) ,corruption , all that is destroying Barclay,s a long name in the history books . And one of this peoples was their customer over 20 Years so loyalty was paid with corrupting the adjudicator .

But this is not bother you one bit . So corrupting the adjudicator was normal, after all, they are being chased by everyone here in US .

.It does,t bother you one bit the conduct of this individuals , how they continuing to be fined for bad practice ,but the top still took their huge bonus ,while last Year alone, 14.000 peoples lost their jobs .And the loss,s for this past Year ,someone will pay for it ,by losing their jobs .:o:o:o:o:o

colsten

Luz, how much did you pay for all those commas ,,,,,,,,, that you are using so copiously? Do you ever wish you'd also bought some apostrophes ''''''''' to balance out the commas, so your posts actually become readable?


Other than that, when did you move to the US? Thought you lost every last penny and had to move back to Portugal, as the original news item suggests ("They moved to Portugal, where they now live, as a result of the losses"), but perhaps I misunderstood. Can you clarify please. Where did you find the funds to relocate to the States?

Luz wrote: »

So corrupting the adjudicator was normal, after all, they are being chased by everyone here in US .

Luz

colsten wrote: »

Luz, how much did you pay for all those commas ,,,,,,,,, that you are using so copiously? Do you ever wish you'd also bought some apostrophes ''''''''' to balance out the commas, so your posts actually become readable?


Other than that, when did you move to the US? Thought you lost every last penny and had to move back to Portugal, as the original news item suggests ("They moved to Portugal, where they now live, as a result of the losses"), but perhaps I misunderstood. Can you clarify please. Where did you find the funds to relocate to the States?

Fines here at home, in the US ....chased everywhere ......

Luz

colsten wrote: »

Luz, how much did you pay for all those commas ,,,,,,,,, that you are using so copiously? Do you ever wish you'd also bought some apostrophes ''''''''' to balance out the commas, so your posts actually become readable?


Other than that, when did you move to the US? Thought you lost every last penny and had to move back to Portugal, as the original news item suggests ("They moved to Portugal, where they now live, as a result of the losses"), but perhaps I misunderstood. Can you clarify please. Where did you find the funds to relocate to the States?

Fines here at home,and in the US ....chased everywhere ......Do not worry they did not lost the last penny .

bowlhead99

Luz wrote: »

.....Do not worry they did not lost the last penny .

I don't think anyone was worried about them.

Although, I must confess I don't know whether we are now talking about 'they' as in the idiots who leveraged borrowed money to invest in unsuccessful share trades in their Barclays accounts, or 'they' as in the allegedly corrupt Barclays bosses who made sharedealing services available, or they, the evil bank heads who dared to take a salary and bonus while laying off unnecessary staff in some departments to make the business more efficient, or an allegedly corrupt adjudicator or regulator or ombudsman...

Luz wrote: »

Just a reminder ,.

The broker , Barclays is an overall name ,but each department is responsible for their own actions ,.

So you cannot blame barclays name for one department mistakes or faults.

OK, so let's not confuse the reputation or activities of the wider banking group with one specific product such as margin trading offered within a banking division or a particular activity which attracted fines such as Libor misreporting or forex abuse...

Does this mean you're going to stop making generalisations about Barclays? After all, you mention that one of the customers with a complaint had been loyal for over 20 years. So presumably it is possible for this bank to supply several decades of satisfactory service to customers and they are no worse than their rivals really.

Luz wrote: »

,but the top still took their huge bonus ,while last Year alone, 14.000 peoples lost their jobs .And the loss,s for this past Year ,someone will pay for it ,by losing their jobs .:o:o:o:o:o

Oh, now you seem to think it makes sense to mix headlines about the large bonuses offered in investment banking in the same sentence as a circa 10% headcount reduction in the wider business and imply that either of these has something to do with the subject of this thread? Which was about a couple who abused the margin facility on their trading account to make bad investment decisions until they built up a large loss.

Still, there's some entertainment value here somewhere I guess :rotfl:

mvarrier

Luz,

Have you considered Los Pandos Vineyard as a potential investment opportunity?

Luz

bowlhead99 wrote: »

I don't think anyone was worried about them.

Although, I must confess I don't know whether we are now talking about 'they' as in the idiots who leveraged borrowed money to invest in unsuccessful share trades in their Barclays accounts, or 'they' as in the allegedly corrupt Barclay,s bosses who made sharedealing services available, or they, the evil bank heads who dared to take a salary and bonus while laying off unnecessary staff in some departments to make the business more efficient, or an allegedly corrupt adjudicator or regulator or ombudsmman .


OK, so let's not confuse the reputation or activities of the wider banking group with one specific product such as margin trading offered within a banking division or a particular activity which attracted fines such as Libor misreporting or forex abuse...

Does this mean you're going to stop making generalisations about Barclays? After all, you mention that one of the customers with a complaint had been loyal for over 20 years. So presumably it is possible for this bank to supply several decades of satisfactory service to customers and they are no worse than their rivals really.

Oh, now you seem to think it makes sense to mix headlines about the large bonuses offered in investment banking in the same sentence as a circa 10% headcount reduction in the wider business and imply that either of these has something to do with the subject of this thread? Which was about a couple who abused the margin facility on their trading account to make bad investment decisions until they built up a large loss.

Still, there's some entertainment value here somewhere I guess

:rotfl:

Who abused margin facility .LOL .....the 10% headcount reduction ,is OK ,as you are not included on it .

Since when a share deal account is a margin account on FCA rules ? this was what the adjudicator asked Barclay,s ,Why are customers allowed to trade with money they do not have ? like a student who was losing 17.000 pounds within a week on the opening the account without ever deposit a pound .

Very funny, he never return with answer , gave 3 days notice and gone . Strait to Delloit . Yes one of them is their customer WHO NEVER MADE A COMPLAIN.and was,t to keen on the newspaper article at the time .

This was what they thought ,Barclay,s is a big name ,and it was the broker side of business they had the problem with,but now finding out the top boss agree to give a job to the adjudicator ,after this case went out on a newspaper worldwide ,and he still agree to this corruption ,and went on to employ this crook ?.


Who for 8 months never come up with anything ,no answers either of ,I DON,T KNOW I,M NOT SURE ,I NEED TO ASK SOMEONE .They had to complain to his manager. W
Why do such thing to a customer ? a case that took 16 months with ombudsman the stress took their health as one of them is seriously ill ,while Mark Hutchinson the manager was keeping sending lies after lies to the ombudsman ,till one day he overstep the mark by saying this .All at the ombudsman agree with us .
After this sentence ,he never replied to them again, another lady manager took over from him .
A man without integrity ,so many lies he gave to the ombudsman . Today if you look at his profile ,somehow is not there ,or was,t there at all . How he tried to distance himself from this case .So is the Big boss ,Rupert Dickinson ,is no longer there amazing ,the adjudicator left in July he left in September .Now they are together Canary Wharf

If they gamble their money and it was only their fault, they should lose the case faire and square , NOT THROUGH CORRUPTION .

Yes it was the Barclay,s stockbrokers who corrupted the adjudicator , but the fact that is now working at Canary Wharf, means they all at the top level knew about it ,and did nothing to stop it .So where are the ones at the helm.

Why they allow this to go on , when they keep saying WE WILL CHANGE THE CULTURE AT BARCLAY,S .Yet this peoples can behave as they like in this departments ,such as margins accounts, that don,t follow the regulations , ,Forex manipulation, corrupting adjudicators ,as there is no one in charge to stop this behaviour is this what you are saying ? but they are paid ,and very well paid to be in charge or not ?...as for the bonus they are not ONLY for investment banking as you know .
The adjudicator should go to prison together with one who corrupted him , the top boss at Barclay,s stockbrokers at that time MR Rupert D...... the one who joined Barclay,s from Delloit.

As for the ones that knew about it, and did nothing to stop it , YOU ARE NOT DOING WHAT YOU PROMISING .Corrupting the adjudicator on Customer ,is sickening .Not one single apology ,when in fact the the tape that took 4 months to get to the ombudsman ,had in fact insults to Mrs Freitas .


All I can say is this ,that hand full of complains ,as they said they had, which means lots of it , will never see their money ,and THEY WERE NOT FOREIGNERS .As longs this makes you happy ,so be it.

Luz

mvarrier wrote: »

Luz,

Have you considered Los Pandos Vineyard as a potential investment opportunity?

Is this this the wine you have now ? (so Called British wine ) tried last week crap, did not like it prefer the Italian ...

konark

She's not bad for 51 though is she?

Luz

He carry the can for those corrupted he left behind ,sad ,there is 3 still to go ,the the ex CEO of Barclay,s stockbrokers Rupert Dickinson ,and the crook corrupted adjudicator DAVID ATKINS ,and Mark Hutchinson ,need to go .It was,t Mr Jenkins who corrupted the adjudicator ,but he got to know ,and did not stop it ..