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  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,565 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    If this proves to be successful will the money be clawed back from the parking company (agents ) such as Athena Smart parking, parking eye or from the car park owners such as Lidl, ASDA, ALDI?.

    If the money is to be claimed form the parking companies then whats to stop them pheonixing into another company to avoid having to shell out?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    It would have to be all that is responsible for the parking company being there surely? So

    Parking company
    Landowner
    Agent
    Leaseholder


    And so on
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Yes I agree with above two posts - joint and several claims against parking company and who engaged them.

    The parking companies are consistently re-phoenixing in any case regardless of this occuring.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Problem is if they Phoenix any claim can only be with the company involved at that time, so if a really insignificant one run by a moron turns from combined parking solutions ltd then into combined parking solutions 2013 ltd, you cannot make a claim on the latter company ran by the same moron
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • May be not so - a company seeking dissolution appears in the Gazette - if anyone has a claim against the company they can seek to halt proceedings.

    Also if a company dissolves a director cannot form another company of a similar name for 12 months (which probably means half the PPCs can be reported for this breach at some point or another in time)
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    They can have a nominee director running a company, lots do it even the company I work for, they have a managing director running the company, but somebody else owns it
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,843 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Seems to me that it would be best to sue the principal to the contract.

    Start hitting the likes of Aldi, Asda, Morrisons, Tesco, Sainsbury, The Range etc, etc, will have much more of an impactful strategic effect, by cutting off the lifeblood, rather than pursuing the PPC, who just might see coughing up for a few 'PPI-style' cases is nothing more than a minor tax on their business model.

    Hit the principal and they'll soon realise they're in bed with the devil, and the sooner out, the better.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,565 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Id pretty much agree with the above.
    At the moment it appears that the supermarkets, car park owners etc see the PPCs as a solution to all their parking problems, even for those car park problems that didn't exist before the PPCs arrived.

    When in fact the /PPCs are not the solution bu the problem, and those who are stupid/naive enough to let PPCs onto their land should be fully responsible for their actions.

    If things do go down the PPI repayment road, then hopefully those affected will be able to visit the store in question to get their money back+a small amount of compensation+interest directly from the stores tills ( where applicable)
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Further to the above two posts - there is of course the agency which enables the PPCs to target people with their unjustified charges in the first place.
    In other words what about including the DVLA in "reclaim" cases? If the charges are unlawful then there is no "reasonable cause" to release keepers' details to PPCs. Might be best to wait for a few wins before trying that but there must be the potential there for killing the whole scam off once and for all.
  • If you tried to register but failed I have fixed a problem where the parking date could only be in the future and the default date is not not in 2016.


    Not sure how this happened; some kind of publishing error on my part I think.


    The date is stuck in mm/dd/yyyy format because that's all my US hosting site supports. Sorry. I have a dev request in to fix that.


    Meanwhile I will be keeping quiet on exactly how it works until we start, for obvious reasons.
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