CSA and self employed fathers

smirnoff68

Since splitting up with my husband back in 2000 we both agreed at the time he would give me £50 a week maintenance for our two children. He has since met someone else and they have a had a child,since then he has dropped the maintenance he gives to me to £40 a week.My eldest will be 18yrs in august and he has already said to the children that he wont be paying for her any longer which is not the problem. I am worried as i think he will then drop the money to £20 a week. If he does do this i will take it to the csa as he earns in excess of £700 a week. What are my chances of them getting any money out of him as he is self employed?

He has plenty to spend at the pub and on drugs even though he denys this,plus he has never done anything with them so i feel the least he can do is pay for them.

TheWaltons_3

It is quite difficult for the CSA to prove what the Self-Employed NRP is earning - they can hide their money, make their business' run at no profit.. and on and on..

.. BUT.. if he has a lifestyle that is inconsistent with his so called earnings.. they can look into it and having read a few threads.. some ladies have been successful.

Try not to go through the CSA route unless you have to... but if he does choose to only pay £20 a week, that is not fair. Nor is £50 a week for 2 children though, I suppose.

kelloggs36

Yes, self employed are notoriously difficult to get anything from! It depends on whether he has been truthful with the Inland Revenue or not - do you know whether he is or not?

smirnoff68

No doubt very much he has been truthful with the inland revenue.I dont think he knows what the word means! Ok thanks for the advise anyway.

kelloggs36

not yet - still waiting for payment. I won this back in 2003 and it was backdated to 2000, but he owes me over 26k

TheWaltons_3

kelloggs36 wrote: »

not yet - still waiting for payment. I won this back in 2003 and it was backdated to 2000, but he owes me over 26k

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Is there something in place though, so you will get the money? Charge on his property or something?

Are you getting monthly payments from him though?

smirnoff68

well thanks for that advice i shall keep that in mind if it comes to it. He has also bought a house so he must of declared his earnings to get a mortgage as when we were together we lived in housing association accomodation which i still do. Good luck with getting your 26k back.

kelloggs36

No, not receiving any monthly payments at all - the amount he owes increases by 76.73 per week. HOwever, yes they do have 3 charging orders on his house and 4 liability orders. At the moment he is supposed to be remortgaging to pay off the debt - so in theory within the next few weeks I should get at least 25k from him in a lump sum. However, until it happens I am not holding my breath. So far, the mortgage company he has applied to has confirmed that he has made the application and they asked for the redemption figures last Monday. Nothing else heard yet. Whilst they stated 5 weeks ago that the remortgage should be done within 6 weeks, my experience of these things is that they always take longer. I don't know how much longer I will have to wait, but he is due back in Court the week after next to provide evidence to the Judge of his payment. I will e-mail the Court Presenting Officer just before to ask her to bring up in Court that he isn't making his monthly payments and to ask the Judge to remind him that he needs to start making them. The liability only lasts until September anyway as my DD is now 18 and will start uni then. Once he has paid off what he owes up until March (which is when it went back to Court) he will have built up another 3k worth of debt which needs to be paid. Another charging order is coming on I feel.

TheWaltons_3

kelloggs36 wrote: »

No, not receiving any monthly payments at all - the amount he owes increases by 76.73 per week. HOwever, yes they do have 3 charging orders on his house and 4 liability orders. At the moment he is supposed to be remortgaging to pay off the debt - so in theory within the next few weeks I should get at least 25k from him in a lump sum. However, until it happens I am not holding my breath. So far, the mortgage company he has applied to has confirmed that he has made the application and they asked for the redemption figures last Monday. Nothing else heard yet. Whilst they stated 5 weeks ago that the remortgage should be done within 6 weeks, my experience of these things is that they always take longer. I don't know how much longer I will have to wait, but he is due back in Court the week after next to provide evidence to the Judge of his payment. I will e-mail the Court Presenting Officer just before to ask her to bring up in Court that he isn't making his monthly payments and to ask the Judge to remind him that he needs to start making them. The liability only lasts until September anyway as my DD is now 18 and will start uni then. Once he has paid off what he owes up until March (which is when it went back to Court) he will have built up another 3k worth of debt which needs to be paid. Another charging order is coming on I feel.

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Good on you! I hope he is sick and feels like a worm for what you have had to go through to get some financial help for his daughter. He should be really ashamed of himself, no doubt he wont be able to look her in the eye.

kelloggs36

That may be part of the reason that he refuses to acknowledge her mere existence. His wife told my DD when she was 12 'don't call your dad ever again because he doesn't want anything to do with you anymore'. What kind of family does she come from to inflict that sort of pain on a child? I know that she was brought up by her mother as her father left when she was young, in which case I would have thought that she would have been more empathetic to my DD's situation - but no, her jealousy of her husband's past and obvious insecurity gets the better of her - pathetic really considering that we had split up before they met and were getting divorced, so it wasn't as though we split so he could run off with her.

TheWaltons_3

kelloggs36 wrote: »

That may be part of the reason that he refuses to acknowledge her mere existence. His wife told my DD when she was 12 'don't call your dad ever again because he doesn't want anything to do with you anymore'. What kind of family does she come from to inflict that sort of pain on a child? I know that she was brought up by her mother as her father left when she was young, in which case I would have thought that she would have been more empathetic to my DD's situation - but no, her jealousy of her husband's past and obvious insecurity gets the better of her - pathetic really considering that we had split up before they met and were getting divorced, so it wasn't as though we split so he could run off with her.

You have summed her up completely and even trying to justify her cruelty is good of you really - she had no rights whatsoever to treat your child like that. I don't think I could be that understanding if someone had said that to my child! Are they still together? How sick she must be that you are going to get your maintenace after all