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Wage incentive "course"? (6 month JSA mandatory)

Isotropic
Isotropic Posts: 7 Forumite
edited 29 January 2014 at 2:26AM in Benefits & tax credits

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  • sammyjammy
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    Mandatory means you have no choice but to attend. There will be reasons why it can be delayed etc but I'm not about to start telling you what they are so you can tell lies to the Jobcentre.

    Why would you not want to attend anyway surely if it helps you look attractive to an employer its worth going?

    http://www.dwp.gov.uk/youth-contract/key-initiatives/wage-incentives/wage-incentive-scheme-details/
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  • osdset
    osdset Posts: 4,447 Forumite
    Why would you not want to attend anyway surely if it helps you look attractive to an employer its worth going?
    All unpaid labour is seen as attractive to [STRIKE]employers[/STRIKE] exploiters.

    Fortunately, as the OP has been mandated to a 3 week course and the requirements for payment under the wage incentive scheme is that the unlucky candidate attends for 26 weeks. Said exploiter will not be collecting £2,275.

    I thought this [STRIKE]scheme[/STRIKE] wheeze had been already been exposed for the confidence trick it plainly is.
  • Isotropic
    Isotropic Posts: 7 Forumite
    edited 29 January 2014 at 2:26AM

  • Isotropic wrote: »
    I do not want to attend because I have already attended a similar week long course a few months ago as a Jobseeker Direction (CVs and Interviews), and also because I am a Chemistry graduate that has been applying to tens of suitable jobs weekly and been getting interviews ever since I began claiming - based on my experience of the prior course there's not much more they could tell me that would help.
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    If you don't want to do the course, then don't do the course. And just lose your benefits. Simples.
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  • Isotropic
    Isotropic Posts: 7 Forumite
    edited 19 January 2014 at 9:29PM
    If you don't want to do the course, then don't do the course. And just lose your benefits. Simples.

    All I'm asking is to have all of the available information before I make a decision.

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  • nannytone_2
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    Isotropic wrote: »
    That is certainly an option.

    All I'm asking is to have all of the available information before I make a decision.
    every benefit has its 'hoops'. if you want to claim then you must jump through them.
    some of the things they ask people to do seem pointless.... but they hold the purse strings and so hold the power
  • Morglin
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    edited 20 January 2014 at 9:33AM
    Isotropic wrote: »
    I do not want to attend because I have already attended a similar week long course a few months ago as a Jobseeker Direction (CVs and Interviews), and also because I am a Chemistry graduate that has been applying to tens of suitable jobs weekly and been getting interviews ever since I began claiming - based on my experience of the prior course there's not much more they could tell me that would help.

    I have no problem with the incentive itself (that you linked). There's no information at your link about the nature of the course though. If it's similar to my earlier course plus them telling me about the £2275, I don't need a three week course to take advantage of it. I will be telling the employers I submit speculative letters to about the incentive anyway. The course itself interferes with my normal process of applying for jobs, learning to drive, and pursuing work experience which I am currently organising.

    Ideally I would like to skip any repeated elements about CVs/interviews and just be there for the wage incentive related content.

    You will have to attend, or you could be subject to sanctions.

    They generally are faintly pointless, and they just shift the problem from the JCP for a time, but this is the latest idea from government and it is compulsory, and until they change it, yet again, it remains as it is.

    I have never heard of anyone being able to 'split' the course, as the people running it are paid per attendee, but nothing to stop you asking at the JCP.

    I am not sure whether mandatory unpaid work placements are still in place, after a court case that ruled against forcing people onto them, but the CAB would know, if you gave them a call.

    However, work experience (in any job) could be useful, as a reference and an ability to show reliability etc., is probably as much use to an employer as a degree (sad, but true), although being educated to degree standard is also helpful, obviously for any future career move. It's all about some sort of proof of commitment nowadays, and getting your foot in the employment door is the important bit, at your age.

    Lin :)
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  • stevemLS
    stevemLS Posts: 1,067 Forumite
    The court case did not rule against forcing people to attend them, it just said that the notice requiring people to attend was defective.

    Presumably the DWP will/has remedied the defect and the elements of compulsion will again apply.
  • NYM
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    From what I've read, the Wage Incentive Scheme only pays the £2275 to the provider if they employ someone for at least 26 weeks.

    ..... Of course, a young person will still need to be paid at least the National Minimum Wage. .....


    http://www.melton.gov.uk/business/business_grants__funding/wage_incentive_opportunity.aspx
  • Voyager2002
    Voyager2002 Posts: 16,349 Forumite
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    Do a search on the regulations... For example, someone doing voluntary work is exempt from "mandatory work activity" (so long as their voluntary work is properly declared and recorded by the jobcentre) and it would be logical for something similar to apply to your mandatory course.
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