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MissyS
MissyS Posts: 24 Forumite
Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
edited 19 January 2014 at 7:20PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
**Photos in next post**
Hi
I am hoping someone can help with a PCN issued by UKPC in December 2012.

Brief details - parked in a private car park in disabled bay. Put up my son's blue badge and went shopping. Came back to PCN on window for not displaying a pay and display ticket. Checked the sign in the car park and there was no information to say that blue badge holders should also pay (but there also was no information to say we didn't need to!). I wish I'd paid the 80p back then!!

I appealed the ticket (before I found any advice on here) and the appeal was refused. I sent a cheque for £2 to cover the parking cost and letter - this was returned.

I read all of the sticky threads at the time (after appeal) and the majority of advice back then was to ignore the letters sent so this is what I did.

The letters stopped in about June 2013.

In December 2013 I received another letter from Debt Recovery Plus asking for payment which I again ignored.

Yesterday I received a letter from 'Small Claims Solicitors' which I have hopefully attached.
This letter has worried me. I spent 2 hours reading the sticky threads for advice but I just cannot get ny head around it so would be eternally grateful if someone could give me some personal advice.

Perhaps the time has come to suck it up and pay?
Many thanks for your help.
Consumer debt £18,897 left / £33,729
LBM December 2019
Hoping to be debt free by May 2022! 
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  • MissyS
    MissyS Posts: 24 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    edited 18 January 2014 at 1:46PM
    photo1_zpsecd20a44.jpg
    photo2_zps48920c73.jpg

    Consumer debt £18,897 left / £33,729
    LBM December 2019
    Hoping to be debt free by May 2022! 
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Ignore them as they cannot issue a claim in their name or debt recovery plus, if you get a letter before claim then come back here for further advice.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Browntoa
    Browntoa Posts: 49,604 Forumite
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    I notice the pictures have your car registration in it, you may want to blank that out and post an updated picture
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  • MissyS
    MissyS Posts: 24 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Thanks for pointing that out - should be reposted and blanked out now.
    Consumer debt £18,897 left / £33,729
    LBM December 2019
    Hoping to be debt free by May 2022! 
  • MissyS
    MissyS Posts: 24 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    At the time of appeal I did not get a POPLA number - should I request one now? Is it too late?
    Consumer debt £18,897 left / £33,729
    LBM December 2019
    Hoping to be debt free by May 2022! 
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    MissyS wrote: »
    At the time of appeal I did not get a POPLA number - should I request one now? Is it too late?

    More than a year has passed, I doubt that they will consider it now. Just ignore unless you get a letter before claim from the parking company
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,795 Forumite
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    edited 18 January 2014 at 5:43PM
    You do realise this letter has been discussed loads of times in the past week?

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4870010

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4870971

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4398287

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4870468

    The advice has already been given to either:

    - ignore it or

    - treat it as a rubbish non-compliant Letter before Claim and respond robustly as per the LBCCC Fightback sticky thread.

    Your choice. I find it amusing they cannot even get the letter-heading to match the supposed name of the firm! Misses off the S!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • MissyS
    MissyS Posts: 24 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Thank you both.

    Coupon-mad - if it were you in this situation which optin would you personally take? Ignore or treast it as a non-compliant letter before claim? Thanks again.
    Consumer debt £18,897 left / £33,729
    LBM December 2019
    Hoping to be debt free by May 2022! 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 151,795 Forumite
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    edited 18 January 2014 at 7:03PM
    I would robustly respond as keeper as per the LBCCC thread, to put them on the back foot. Because if it is meant to be a LBC then clearly it doesn't cut the mustard and if it isn't then no harm done - as long as you follow Daisy's LBCCC sticky and do not refer to who was driving or anything else - no unnecessary detail, just a robust rebuttal of it - a demolition! Then I would ignore any other protestations from them or DRP/Zenith of course as you have stated your case and should only then respond to a real compliant LBC (or court papers of course if the PPC tries it).

    I can understand the plan to ignore it as well, because the more you look at it the more it looks like a Debt Recovery Plus standard letter and it is drivel! After all, we have seen this letter posted about by people with all sorts of different PPCs originally so I can't believe it is anything more than DRP's latest letter, in reality. It's not indicative of one particular PPC shaping up for court, that's for sure.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • MissyS
    MissyS Posts: 24 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Thank you for your advice.
    As an aside I tried to open the website detailed at the bottom of the letter. The address does. Not exist funnily enough!
    Consumer debt £18,897 left / £33,729
    LBM December 2019
    Hoping to be debt free by May 2022! 
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