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wood burning stove but no chimney?

Hi, I've tried using the search option but haven't found anything, so maybe someone here can help.


I understand it's possible to install a wood burning/multi fuel stove near an outside wall and have the flue installed through the wall to vent outside, but haven't been able to find any advice abut this. How practical is this, would there be any obvious problems that might arise that would mean it wasn't an option, and what sort of price am I likely to be looking at for the installation?


Many thanks for any help, its v late at night so I'll log back on later today to see if anyone has any bright ideas!
Wilson the Volleyball is one of Hollywood's most loved volleyballs. His glittering career started when he became the only companion of Tom Hanks' Chuck Noland in Cast Away. Many say this is Wilson's best performance and he couldn't have given a better effort.

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  • Not uncommon at all - and the twin wall insulated flues are good to sweep too - tend to stay very clean. Price will vary with area and the building itself - not cheap but a good installation never is!
    http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/stove/img/good-installation.jpg
  • matelodave
    matelodave Posts: 9,196 Forumite
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    edited 15 January 2014 at 10:15AM
    We've just had one fitted. We live in a Bungalow and the flue comes straight out of the top of the stove, up through the ceiling, loft and out through the roof. You can do the same in a house although the flue would have to pass up through one of the upstairs rooms as well. As you say it's also possible for the flue to come out of a wall and run up the outside rather than going straight up. You also need a non combustible hearth or floor plate depending on what sort of stove you get, that adds another £200-£400 to the cost depending on what you want.

    We got several quotes which varied between £2k-£3.5k for the flue, hearth and installation plus the cost of a stove which can be any price you like from £500 upwards. We ended up paying just under £3k for the whole job (the stove cost £750 and the hearth was £300). I'd suggest that if you are in a house then add at least another £1-2k for the additional height of the flue and extra work involved. We got the stove for £750 but had quotes up to £1100 for it so it pays to shop around.

    You do need to get a few quotes from HETAS installers as their prices varied enormously - we got our best deal from a place in Bury St Edmunds (who got the job) and the worst from a posh shop in Cambridge who wanted just over £4.5k (they also want £50 to come and quote, whereas others didn't charge)

    If you PM me I can send you a couple of piccies to see how our installation looks
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  • highrisklowreturn
    highrisklowreturn Posts: 848 Forumite
    edited 19 January 2014 at 1:35PM
    You ripped off - 2k to run a metal pipe up through your bungalow. Never hear of a circular saw?

    200-400 for a hearth - you're having a laugh surely, I built my own for £140 - which included tools needed to cut and shape the tiles.

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  • matelodave
    matelodave Posts: 9,196 Forumite
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    Yup - you are right - it's not rocket science and really doesn't need a great deal of skill


    I could have got the bits, climbed up on the roof and done all the work myself and paid a couple of hundred to the building inspector to get it approved. BUT I'm now past all that. If I can afford it I'll get someone else to do it whilst I watch or do something else.


    Over the years I've done nearly everything myself when I was hard up but now I don't want to anymore - if it can't get an easy fix, it now gets chucked out or I GALMI it (Get A Little Man In) Gone are the days of lying under a washing machine, car or other appliance or climbing over roofs etc to save a few bob.
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  • suki1964
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    Twin wall flue was our biggest expense. We already had one stove using the chimney so this one had to go out through the roof space and through the roof and secured to the chimney stack

    Here in NI we aren't bothered by HETAS, we get the installation signed off by the council

    A hearth is as expensive as you like. Same as highrisk, we built our own. That and the tiling behind the stove came to less then £100

    Hubby being a builder, took about half a day to install our stove. Our hardest part was getting the ceiling hole right as it was going up through the eave so was angled.

    You can do the job yourself or get a competent trusted builder to do it. You DO NOT need a HETAS fitter, you need to comply to the building regs and get the work signed off

    The place we bought our stove from, the owner was a heating engineer and was very clued up on fitting and regs. He helped us with what we needed and talked hubby through the process and ours was signed off with no worries
  • fleeto3
    fleeto3 Posts: 24 Forumite
    I was £1750 for fire, flue and instillation. The boy that fitted it was a p****k to deal with but he did a great job. If he answered the phone and kept me informed I'd be singing his praises. The instillation was £400 but they put a hearth if for free, just some slate and lined the back walls with marble that they had lying about. Fire was £700 ish, the flue was about £600. This was installed into a wooden summer house. The chimney is probably 3.5 meters in height so it draws properly. Best thing I've ever got.
  • wilsooon
    wilsooon Posts: 75 Forumite
    Many, many thanks for all your replies and advice! You've certainly made it look like a real possibility, now. I'll give it some very serious thought and do some more research. If and when I do decide to go ahead, I'll let all MS's know how I got on!
    Wilson the Volleyball is one of Hollywood's most loved volleyballs. His glittering career started when he became the only companion of Tom Hanks' Chuck Noland in Cast Away. Many say this is Wilson's best performance and he couldn't have given a better effort.
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