Landlord entered flat without permission

jjlandlord

jaylee3 wrote: »

Can you prove otherwise? Seems not.

I quoted you the reference, but you prefer to ignore it because it is too much for you to process.

You seem like a nice piece of work.

jaylee3

jjlandlord wrote: »

I gave you the exact reference, I'll let you do something productive today and Google it yourself.



I'm trying to bring attention to what the law actually sayd on the matter and I am a "typical dodgy landlord"?
Right, now we can see why landlord must protect themselves: They might get a tenant who thinks like you.

Or WORSE, Lee could get a landlord like YOU. :rotfl:

jaylee3

jjlandlord wrote: »

I quoted you the reference, but you prefer to ignore it because it is too much for you to process.

You seem like a nice piece of work.

Maybe you can't provide the link to where you got it, because you made it up?

Why the hell should *I* find it myself?

I feel sorry for any tenant stuck in YOUR property. You probably come in while they're there, inviting yourself to dinner, saying it's 'your right' because you're the landlord.

Do one mate.

CreditCrunchie

Interestingly this article popped up today, giving a good general overview if the topic for anyone unsure http://www.thetenantsvoice.co.uk/blogs/landlords-right-to-enter-a-property/

CKhalvashi

Deleted_User wrote: »

jjlandlord sounds like a typical dodgy landlord. Hence why I'm all up for changing locks, returning post to sender, and dobbing them in to HMRC and mortgage company if not BTL.

IMO, JJ seems to not be that hot on the law as it stands (I've been a LL for 8 years, and have never seen the need to let myself into a property)

I asked a T if I could inspect last week on a set date/time, they said no, but I can come round later in the evening, so I'll be doing the inspection tonight. The law does not allow me to just walk in without them there.

CK

jjlandlord

jaylee3 wrote: »

Why the hell should *I* find it myself?

Who do you think you are?

franklee

jjlandlord wrote: »

Can the landlord land himself in hot waters by entering despite the tenant saying 'no'? Yes.
Should the landlord be careful? Yes.
Can the landlord force his way in? No.

If the tenant doesn't change the locks the landlord could enter anyway (notice or not) and there's little the tenant can do apart from complain.

Which is why the tenant should change the locks in a situation where they've already complained in writing about the landlord entering without permission. The landlord would then need a court order to enter or the tenant's explicit permission and to open the door. The tenant would have a good case for acting reasonably to protect his quiet enjoyment.

As another example the landlord is obliged by law to protect the deposit. If he doesn't the tenant can't just nick the money from the LL's wallet, he has to go to court etc.

So we have to look at the legal rights each party has and the methods by which they can be enforced.

CreditCrunchie

It's a pity that some landlords do think like this and act in ways which are detrimental to their tenants. Unfortunately it gives the impression that all landlords are like this and simply encourages tenants to be over precautious in the future.

Also, in my opinion there is a BIG difference between a landlord wanting to do the right thing by repairing something but possibly not giving the right notice, and a landlord who just walks in unannounced at an odd time of night, into the home of a lone female. If that were me I'd have actually moved out as the landlord clearly cannot see how those actions might make someone feel and that's just scary!

thesaint

jaylee3 wrote: »

Maybe you can't provide the link to where you got it, because you made it up?

He was quite specific on what he was referring to.
I know the Act and Section without even checking. I suspect jjlandlord does to.

The fact that you don't tells us a lot about your "knowledge" on the subject.

Sec 11
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/70

CKhalvashi wrote: »

IMO, JJ seems to not be that hot on the law as it stands (I've been a LL for 8 years, and have never seen the need to let myself into a property)

I asked a T if I could inspect last week on a set date/time, they said no, but I can come round later in the evening, so I'll be doing the inspection tonight. The law does not allow me to just walk in without them there.

CK

It does if you have given them 24 hours written notice.

jjlandlord

thesaint wrote: »

He was quite specific on what he was referring to.
I know the Act and Section without even checking. I suspect jjlandlord does to.

You're too charitable providing a link.
I had pointed the exact Act and section, and quoted the paragraph in full. It was just a question of copy-paste into Google.

Dear jaylee3 was just showing a huge amount of bad faith.