Landlord entered flat without permission

CreditCrunchie

This is not my assertion it is fact. Not only is this what Shelter, the CAB, and legal professionals will tell you, it is what I have experienced first hand when taking a previous rogue landlord to court, as has been discussed before.

I'm not sure why you insist on holding into this notion that it's your right as a landlord to enter whenever you please.. It is not. I've seen your other threads and you generally give very useful advice, which I have had cause to thank many times. It baffles me though that you keep sticking on this one point.

jjlandlord

jaylee3 wrote: »

So where do you get this law from that nobody else has heard of that a landlord has a RIGHT to enter the property whenever he wants to? With only 24 hours notice?

Be my guest: Landlord and Tenant Act 1985 s.11
See post #40.

It is not because you do not know that nobody knows.

CreditCrunchie wrote: »

I'm not sure why you insist on holding into this notion that it's your right as a landlord to enter whenever you please..

When did I claim that? Please stop inventing.

jaylee3

Can you provide the link please? And also, what if the tenant says 'no.' What then? Are you saying that the landlord can just come in regardless?

jaylee3

SHELTER say different jjlandlord

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/private_renting/problems_with_renting/harassment_by_a_landlord

They say

Unreasonable behaviour by your landlord or letting agent which could count as harassment includes:

entering your home when you are not there or without your permission

So if said tenant does not give permission, then landlord or agent cannot enter the property at ALL.

Maybe I am wrong. I don't think I am. I am SURE landlords AND agents cannot enter unless the tenant gives PERMISSION. (Unless - as I said earlier - there is a health and safety issue or suchlike...) Why do some people think landlords and agents can just enter someone's home without them there and without their permission?

jjlandlord

No, they do not say differently.

Again, stop quoting what you do not understand.

Of course a landlord cannot let himself in whenever he wants, for no reason, and without notice.
But as quoted he has a right of entry in special cases.

jaylee3 wrote: »

I am SURE landlords AND agents cannot enter unless the tenant gives PERMISSION.

You've been given reference to the law, but you are still sure that it is wrong?
OK...

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jjlandlord sounds like a typical dodgy landlord. Hence why I'm all up for changing locks, returning post to sender, and dobbing them in to HMRC and mortgage company if not BTL.

jaylee3

jjlandlord wrote: »

No, they do not say differently.


Again, stop quoting what you do not understand.

Of course a landlord cannot let himself in whenever he wants, for no reason, and without notice.
But as quoted he has a right of entry in special cases.



You've been given reference to the law, but you are still sure that it is wrong?
OK...

They DO say different.

Like I said, provide the link to that EXACT piece that you quoted please.

Maybe you are just seeing what you want to see.

I am beginning to think that YOU are the one that is waffling on about things they know nothing about. Making up stuff to suit the landlord. You sound like Lee's landlord!

jjlandlord

jaylee3 wrote: »

Like I said, provide the link to that EXACT piece that you quoted please.

I gave you the exact reference, I'll let you do something productive today and Google it yourself.

Deleted_User wrote: »

jjlandlord sounds like a typical dodgy landlord.

I'm trying to bring attention to what the law actually sayd on the matter and I am a "typical dodgy landlord"?
Right, now we can see why landlord must protect themselves: They might get a tenant who thinks like you.

jaylee3

Deleted_User wrote: »

jjlandlord sounds like a typical dodgy landlord. Hence why I'm all up for changing locks, returning post to sender, and dobbing them in to HMRC and mortgage company if not BTL.

I agree. Change the locks and if your landlord tries to still gain entry, I would call the police. Like I said, it's more YOUR home than HIS while you are the tenant. Whether he - or mr jjlandlord - likes it or not.

jaylee3

jjlandlord wrote: »

I gave you the exact reference, I'll let you do something productive today and Google it yourself.

:rotfl: Unbelievable.. You have no idea what you're talking about. Did you make this up or something, seeing as you conveniently don't seem to be able to provide the link.

A landlord cannot enter the premises unless the tenant GIVES PERMISSION. Shelter say that on their website.

Can you prove otherwise? Seems not. You seem so sure you're right. Yet I have yet to see actual proof. And asking me to find it myself OMG

Even that so called exact reference only says that the landlord only has to give 24 hours notice. It does not say anything about if the tenant refuses! Seems you are handpicking bits to suit your flimsy argument.

Have a good day. I have to go now. LOL.