Parking Fine in Boston

Brad69

Got a fixed penalty ticket for parking in the B&M car park inBoston today. Just popped to dunelm and B&M by because I stepped out if the car park and into the dunelm down the street I got a fine. The attendant even had the cheek to say he'd seen me walk down the street then issued me the fine... What I object to is the fact I've got a fine for not displaying a ticket....when I clearly had one....

Half_way

please read the stickys, its not a fine, wait for the notice to keeper to arrive in the post, and in the meantime read the stickys in here

Coupon-mad

It's not a penalty ticket though is it? Not a fine at all. Not if it's a private invoice. Read the Newbies thread to see what to do when (start by reading the step by step 'walk through' guide linked in it). We can't keep individually spelling out to every other poster what to do from scratch when the forum top threads shout it out in capital letters...sorry but that's why I wrote the sticky thread...to save our sanity here on this constantly overstretched forum.

In fact what did you learn about the appeals process when you at least read some ordinary threads on the forum, anything from page one would do, look:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163 (click on mark24369's thread for starters of course, then the sticky threads at the top).

We want you to win at POPLA and will help you further once you have done a little but of reading and drafted an appeal from the registered keeper (not driver).

Redx

must be a purge on at that car park !!! , 2 in 2 days

Umkomaas

Possibly a new chimp .......... or one on his final warning?

Redx

the strange thing is, in that court case VCS vs Ibbotson the judge clearly stated that it was an operatives legal obligation to warn customers if they were about to break any rules on site !!! (before they did so)

21 JUDGE MciL W AINE: Thank you, and so if on the evidence of Mr Ibbotson, which has not
22 been challenged, the parking attendant was there and saw Mr Ibbotson walking away, whilst it may
23 not be his responsibility to stop him walking away, as he is a lawful authorised member of the
24 company at the time he is there and there is a duty to mitigate the loss, can you explain to me why he
25 did not say to Mr Ibbotson, "You can walk off, not a problem, 80 quid"?
26 MISS COATES: Because obviously when we have parking attendants advising motorists on
27 parking it can cause problems further down the line, so we have a policy where parking attendants do
28 not advise on parking. If he has issued a notice, a parking attendant will advise the motorist to appeal
29 in writing to the company.
30 JUDGE MciL W AINE: I know, but this is before the notice is issued. He could have said, "Mr
31 Ibbotson" - he did not know his name, of course - "Mr, whatever your name is, I am out here to
32 enforce the parking. I don't want to ruin your day. I don't want to have a bad day myself. Can I point
33 out that I have to, under the contract you have entered, if you leave these premises I have to charge you £80". If Mr Ibbotson says, "I am going to the vet just over there", how does he know when he leaves the premises and how does your attendant know when he leaves the premises?

MISS COATES: Because our attendant was there.

Coupon-mad

Yep but just to flag up, if genuine this OP needs to get more help from us before POPLA. This is Napier - he needs to read the advice already on mark24369's thread.

Strange they have similar usernames (mark and brad born in 1969) and arrived within 24 hours and both used some similar wording in the opening post...coincidence?

Hello Napier if you are reading this, in some shape or form.

Redx

well , the 69 is common , the same car park is common , its the same "contravention" and the other thread say you can only go in B&M or Dunelm , nowhere else

do coincidences really happen ? lol

Coupon-mad

Yep 69 is quite a commonly mentioned number I suppose!!

But look what else I found when I searched:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4518423

Do Napier only pick on people born in 1969?!

mark24369

Just found this post.By the name used I guess its from female who followed my link I posted elsewhere.So this is a genuine person who had the sane trouble the day after me.

Coupon-mad

Yep I decided that too, in the end! But we do get a bit suspicious at first sometimes, particularly with a case about a fairly rare PPC which reads the forum (hello again, Napier)! Both of you will certainly need to consider your POPLA appeal wording carefully and to get pics of your signage and a link to the webpage of car park t&cs which Napier normally mention in their tickets. It could be a case where the terms do not allege 'breach' and so 'no GPEOL' won't win it at POPLA and you'll need some strong points to fall back on. And tell us - on your respective own threads - if you know whether Napier are/are not the car park owners, and whether De Savary are/are not the owners.