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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    People in those groups have never been able to buy in the South East. The problem is the lack of social housing.

    the problem is the lack of sufficent rental properties
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    the problem is the lack of sufficent rental properties



    Yes but I don't think it would be possible to build enough rental properties in London to bring rents down to a level where low paid people could afford them without housing benefit.
  • CLAPTON
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    Yes but I don't think it would be possible to build enough rental properties in London to bring rents down to a level where low paid people could afford them without housing benefit.

    maybe maybe not

    but there is no merit is subsidising houses rather than people in need.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    maybe maybe not

    but there is no merit is subsidising houses rather than people in need.

    Why not? Why does it make sense to keeping paying ever increasing HB instead?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • MrsE_2
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    maybe maybe not

    but there is no merit is subsidising houses rather than people in need.

    If they built masses of social housing in the south east it would solve the housing crisis down here & a massive injection of social housing would reduce the prices of houses.
  • CLAPTON
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    MrsE wrote: »
    If they built masses of social housing in the south east it would solve the housing crisis down here & a massive injection of social housing would reduce the prices of houses.

    If masses of housing was built in the south east this would solve the housing crisis

    people who are poor can be subsidised as appropriate.
  • CLAPTON
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    grizzly1911 wrote: »
    Why not? Why does it make sense to keeping paying ever increasing HB instead?

    it makes sense to subsidise poor people and not people because they were once poor and were allocated a designated property (called social housing)
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    it makes sense to subsidise poor people and not people because they were once poor and were allocated a designated property (called social housing)

    The chances are the people will, by and large, remain relatively poor.

    There will be a few who do well. There is no reason why they should continue to be subsidised if they choose to remain. In the same way HB is reviewed and removed/reduced rent could be reviewed and charged at a market rate.

    If they do well then many would aspire to private ownership surely. That private ownership would be more attainable.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    grizzly1911 wrote: »
    The chances are the people will, by and large, remain relatively poor.

    There will be a few who do well. There is no reason why they should continue to be subsidised if they choose to remain. In the same way HB is reviewed and removed/reduced rent could be reviewed and charged at a market rate.

    If they do well then many would aspire to private ownership surely. That private ownership would be more attainable.



    there is no benefit in building subsidised state controlled property when we need to subsidise poor people

    we need to build more housing (in areas of need) so everyone can benefit from better housing standards
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    there is no benefit in building subsidised state controlled property when we need to subsidise poor people

    we need to build more housing (in areas of need) so everyone can benefit from better housing standards


    So the government building "state controlled" (your words) property would not be more housing? Wouldn't poor people being housed be "subsidiising" them?

    There is no reason why "state controlled" housing couldn't be built to equally high standards or even better standards.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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