Landlord refuses to install a heater in the kitchen, is this legal?

Euphoria1z

DaftyDuck wrote: »

Exactly so. The gas is turned into heat that warms the kitchen, as well as carbon dioxide and water vapour. When the gas ring is turned off and the room cools that water vapour will condense on the walls and you'll likely get mould! The more you use the ring to warm the room, the worse the problem.

It'' depend on how well ventilated the room is, and a host of other factors, but it's a likely result.

but if there was a radiator in the kitchen then wouldn't you have a similar problem with condensation on walls leading to mould or is this specific to heat from the gas hob?


I mean the gas hob is being used to cook food anyway , so all were doing is having it on for a bit to heat up the kitchen so its not icy cold.

DaftyDuck

It's specific to the hob (in this case), as it's the flame that produces water in the combustion process. John-Pierpoint had the equation about right on the previous page (Post 36).

Heaters that use electricity or a gas powered radiator don't have the same effect locally - but look outside on a cold day when the gas central heating is on, and you'll see the cloud of vapour formed... but outside in this case.

With a kitchen gas ring, unless you have the extractor on full blast (sucking the heat out too), you'll fill the room with moist air. Mind you, so will boiling a saucepan of water... so always keep those lids on!

LisaLou1982

Stop being soft OP.

It gets cold in this country - i have a victorian semi with a kitchen with 3 external walls. It gets cold. Just put some slippers on and keep the doors open through the house. It will warm it up enough. A house isnt supposed to be a sauna

goonarmy

Is 7degrees cold?
My kitchen has no heater/ heating, I dont walk in it starkers but never been a problem.

silverwhistle

Macca83 wrote: »

That is the most random statement I've ever heard in my life. Every single 'British' kitchen I've been in has had a radiator so I'm not sure where you get your facts from?

See my comment above. You haven't been in mine...

Vincent.waldorf

gilbutre wrote: »

Well I go to the kitchen maybe 20 or 30 times a day! In total I probably spend an hour at least in it, but it's fragmented in many pieces.

Cooker helps but still when you enter the kitchen, it feels just like going out. I usually take on my scarf and winter coat before going there.

Stop exaggerating lol, just buy the heater if need it because the option is there. You have a huge kitchen and moan because its cold ...-_-

LEJC

if its that bad then next time your tenancy is up for renewal look to find a more suitably heated property.


Ive lived in my current house for s good few years and dont have any heating in the kitchen....

John_Pierpoint

I have a friend in a semi detached Victorian property probably built originally for estate agricultural workers.
When this luxury accommodation was built, it would have had one full sized 12' x12' upstairs front bedroom, a central staircase, and to the rear two 6' x 10' bedrooms.
Down stairs the front parlour would have been 9' x 12' plus s a 3' corridor serving the front parlour, the stairs and the kitchen/living room of 10' x 12'.
To the rear there is a semi-detached single story about 6' x 10'. This would have only been accessible from the yard as it would have been 1/3 rd. privy and 2/3 rds. pig sty. Bath night might well have been one a week in a tin bath in the living room filled from kettles heated on the range.

One of the rear bedrooms is now a bathroom. The front room is now 12 x12 and a lounge part open plan to the rear living/dining room with a partly exposed stairs overlooking the lounge.
The pig sty/privy is now a galley kitchen knocked through to the dining.living room.
This kitchen has a rear and side wall exposed to the elements and these are only half a brick (ie 4" or 100 mm) thick. Obviously this small kitchen urgently needs external insulation and it is time that the government stopped such sources of instant fuel poverty being offered to tenants.

There must be hundreds of thousand similar properties in the country, let us hope that there can be a cost break-through for low cost high performance internal insulation.

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allthingsmustpass

It is rather short sighted of the landlord not to make the property more appealing to tenants. Ultimately it will cost them more in the long run in periods with no tenant and tenant finding fees etc as each one moves out each winter!

I recommend moving out, a tenant has that flexibility and should use it. You would also get a warming glow from the knowledge this scrooge will be more out of pocket by this action than if they were sensible and made the property more acceptable to their customers!

To those that whine about a tenants expectations, you should remember they are providing the income to a landlords business and as such should have their opinions on the provision of the service taken seriously if you a landlord wants to stay in business.

It is a peculiarly british attitude to look down your nose at tenants and dismiss their concerns. Landlords should remember where their money comes from and not get their typically indebted and loss making business person status confused with that of a person with more nous than their customers.

Takeaway_Addict

allthingsmustpass wrote: »

It is rather short sighted of the landlord not to make the property more appealing to tenants. Ultimately it will cost them more in the long run in periods with no tenant and tenant finding fees etc as each one moves out each winter!

I recommend moving out, a tenant has that flexibility and should use it. You would also get a warming glow from the knowledge this scrooge will be more out of pocket by this action than if they were sensible and made the property more acceptable to their customers!

To those that whine about a tenants expectations, you should remember they are providing the income to a landlords business and as such should have their opinions on the provision of the service taken seriously if you a landlord wants to stay in business.

It is a peculiarly british attitude to look down your nose at tenants and dismiss their concerns. Landlords should remember where their money comes from and not get their typically indebted and loss making business person status confused with that of a person with more nous than their customers.

I am sure plenty of landlords stay in business without listening to their tenants...