Landlord refuses to install a heater in the kitchen, is this legal?

Euphoria1z

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

The OP has already got condensation and black mould problems, through not understanding the features of the property.

CH4 + 2xO2 -> CO2 + H2O + H2O

That is why gas boilers produce a plume of vapour outsider on cold days.

Just to make sure I understand what your saying...


by having your gas hob on when its cold in the kitchen produces black mould problems and condensation?

moromir

Euphoria1z wrote:

Just to make sure I understand what your saying...


by having your gas hob on when its cold in the kitchen produces black mould problems and condensation?

He's saying is that open gas combustion produces water vapour, this will add to the humidity of the property unless steps are taken to remove aforementioned vapour.

If the vapour is not removed, it could condense on cold surfaces causing condensation leading to mould growth.

However, if windows etc are opened regularly during and after cooking (i.e. normal and reasonably expected 'tenant like behaviour') there shouldn't be a problem.

DaftyDuck

Euphoria1z wrote: »

Just to make sure I understand what your saying...


by having your gas hob on when its cold in the kitchen produces black mould problems and condensation?

Exactly so. The gas is turned into heat that warms the kitchen, as well as carbon dioxide and water vapour. When the gas ring is turned off and the room cools that water vapour will condense on the walls and you'll likely get mould! The more you use the ring to warm the room, the worse the problem.

It'' depend on how well ventilated the room is, and a host of other factors, but it's a likely result.

SuzieSue

DaftyDuck wrote: »

It'' depend on how well ventilated the room is, and a host of other factors, but it's a likely result.

Also, if the room isn't ventilated properly then I think that there is a risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. I have a CO detector in my kitchen for that reason.

meg72

Tancred wrote: »

The landlord is perfectly within his rights to refuse to install a heater in the kitchen. Kitchens are not normally provided with radiators in British houses, so why are you even asking this? A kitchen is used for cooking, and the heat generated by the oven and hobs provide adequate heat in themselves.

My kitchen does have a radiator but I have turned it off and the bathroom and spare room one, its a very small bungalow, double glazed and well insulated so don't need them, I just leave doors open . When I use my big oven for a batch cook I turn everything off on the thermostat

I like to keep the kitchen cool find things like the fruit bowl breadbin, veg etc keep better.. .

jamie11

poppysarah wrote: »

Isn't there something about Band F properties having to be improved?

Not to my knowledge, I might be wrong though.

I should think that if a property can only graded as an 'F' the council could make an improvement order for certain things.

meg72

gilbutre wrote: »

Well I go to the kitchen maybe 20 or 30 times a day! In total I probably spend an hour at least in it, but it's fragmented in many pieces.

Cooker helps but still when you enter the kitchen, it feels just like going out. I usually take on my scarf and winter coat before going
there.

Interested why so many trips to the kitchen,? and only two or three minutes a time, barely enough time to make a coffee, certainly not long enough to make a meal.

lemontart

SantaKlaus wrote: »

neither my kitchen or bathroom/shower room (no bath, just a shower lol) has heating, the kitchen joins onto the bathroom, so over a third of the house isn't heated, taking a shower in winter is AWEFUL. Even the toilet freezes during winter. LL is not intrested at all. You're lucky lol

I have never had heating in my kitchen so does get a tad cold and no central heating in rest of house so loo seat is painfully cold in winter

poppysarah

It's been talked about:

From 2016, any tenant or their representatives asking for their landlord’s
consent to make reasonable energy efficiency improvements cannot be
refused. From 2018, the rental of the very worst performing properties
—
those
rated F and G
—
will be banned through a minimum energy efficie
ncy
standard.”
Rt Hon
Chris Huhne
MP, 10 May 2011


http://www.foe.co.uk/sites/default/files/downloads/private_rented_homes.pdf

jamie11

poppysarah wrote: »

It's been talked about:

From 2016, any tenant or their representatives asking for their landlord’s
consent to make reasonable energy efficiency improvements cannot be
refused. From 2018, the rental of the very worst performing properties
—
those
rated F and G
—
will be banned through a minimum energy efficie
ncy
standard.”
Rt Hon
Chris Huhne
MP, 10 May 2011


http://www.foe.co.uk/sites/default/files/downloads/private_rented_homes.pdf

Thanks for that, always learning!