Agricultural tie on property

Seraphinaoflondon

Davesnave wrote: »

You are allowed to retire, you know!

If ill-health were to make the running of a commercial apiary impossible for you, then so long as you didn't take up a non-agricultural job, you'd be entitled to live in the property.

Many thanks. I think I'd have to take up a non-ag sedentary job if fit enough. Otherwise we would be existing on benefits and I assume that the Benefits Agency would baulk at paying me, if I turn down non-ag work that is available? That would give the scenario that I become unfit for physical work, get sickness benefit then (what used to be called?) Disability Living Allowance but it could be that I would be perfectly fit to take a town job but not work on the land or in the apiary. So I would end up having to sell my home? In any case, existing on benefits when I am fit enough to work goes badly against the grain as well as being poverty level existence.

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Davesnave

There are all sorts of scenarios that play out if we become ill, disabled, or just lose a job, regardless of the type of property.

Many people have to sell their family home and downsize when misfortune strikes, so there is nothing particularly 'odd' about ag-tied properties from my way of thinking. Indeed, since one usually buys them at a discount of around 30% on the usual market price, and with a considerable cash input, it could be argued that they are often more secure than something non-tied subject to large monthly mortgage payments.

No local authority is going to turn people out of their homes suddenly if they fall on hard times as the result of illness. In practice, in a case of non-compliance, the period one is granted in which to sell is often measured in years. There is also the possibility that, having established a legitimate residency, one is simply overlooked when circumstances change. It certainly happens.

Great_Dane_Lady

I have seen a property with an AG Tie, i do fit the criteria of working in Horticulture and have done for 15years. Although, I am still unsure whether buying an AG Tie property would be a wise investment.
This property is everything I am looking for, detatched 2 bed bungalow, with 1/4 acre (good sized area for my dogs to run around), priced within my budget but at the higher end so would want to offer less if I was to go ahead. Also wonder if the vendor is hoping not to find a buyer so he can push ahead with trying to get local council to get Ag tie removed.
But, the Ag Tie worries me, I am single, but if i met someone and we decided to have kids, and I give up work to take care of them, would I have to sell?? (Assuming the man I met was not in agriculture, horticulture or forestry)
Decisions decisions

Davesnave

Great_Dane_Lady wrote: »

the Ag Tie worries me, I am single, but if i met someone and we decided to have kids, and I give up work to take care of them, would I have to sell?? (Assuming the man I met was not in agriculture, horticulture or forestry)
Decisions decisions

There's no problem here.

If you are single and working in horticulture, but later marry and give up work to look after children, you will still qualify. You were last working in agriculture.

If a vendor hopes to market their property unsuccessfully and then have the tie removed, they must still set the price at an appropriate level. The practice of putting potential buyers off sometimes goes on, but using price to do it is risky. The selling history will be investigated.

A house, tied or not, will usually sell if marketed at the correct price.

gordonbennet

You ask about wise investment. It's pretty much like any other property you might buy in that a price will be finally be agreed which reflects the current Market value. Here, the restrictions on it will reduce the pool of potential buyers; something which may be to your advantage now while negotiating price, but to your disadvantage later when you decide to sell.

RAS

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Davesnave

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bing_bong_crosby

If I own and occupy an agricultural tied property and am not involved in agriculture, what enforcement action can the LPA take against me. Thanks

GDB2222

bing_bong_crosby wrote: »

If I own and occupy an agricultural tied property and am not involved in agriculture, what enforcement action can the LPA take against me. Thanks

The enforcement is the same as for any other breach of planning permission. They can require you to stop occupying the building unless you satisfy the requirements of the PP, ie they can turf you out or you'll have to get a job in agriculture toot sweet.