Nice People Thread Number 10 -the official residence of Nice People

lostinrates

Poet, what is your avatar? Who is it?

lemonjelly

poet123 wrote: »

I am supporting a friend going through Cancer treatment atm and it is really taking its toll.

The sheer numbers of people you see at the hospital and how ill they look is just awful. My friend loves Coronation Street but the current storyline with Hayley is far too close to home. I find myself being upbeat when I am with her (and she is amazing) but I get home and slump. I also have little patience with the small stuff others find annoys them, illness like this just puts all that into perspective, but, of course, if you are not involved small stuff is still important, as it was to me before this.....

I was a carer for a close friend 6 years ago now. With hindsight, I've no idea how I did it (as well as maintaining f-t work too). There were some horrible times, as well as some deeply moving times.

It is amazing how it permeates so much of your life. The impact of treatment, the lack of immune system strength, the steralising cups/plates etc.
There were moments where (immediately prior to treatment) I had situations where I thought my friend was going to die in front of me. We did find all sorts of tricks specific to their condition. Sometimes, with the treatments & after effects, I felt really helpless.

But there are god times too. Friend loves fireworks, & I knew they had to avoid the crowds, & weren't strong enough to attend anyway, so filled a flask, got a few munchies, drove to their home & picked them up (not saying where or why), parked on a hill overlooking the city, & could see loads and loads of displays going on, whilst drinking hot drinks, & being pretty comfortable & warm.

Yes there were tears, but happy ones.

poet123

lostinrates wrote: »

Poet, what is your avatar? Who is it?

It is a picture of my doppelganger! My friends at work thought it was me and put a copy on my desk last week.

neverdespairgirl

When my mother was being treated for cancer last year, she dropped a plate and burst into tears. She reckoned it was much easier to cope with cancer ad chemotherapy if you let yourself get upset about dropping a plate instead.

It's horrible if you have a cold, or something, or your OH or son does, and you can't go near the person being treated for their own good, because of the zero immune system.

michaels

WE have 6cm white porcelain tiles in the entrance hall and dining room/study on wood and the same in the utility on concrete. The ones on wood the grout between them cracks as they move a fraction. these then join to the kichen/family/dining which has grooveless engineered oak and the lounge which has solid oak with grooves but both have a similar plank width. the reason for going engineed in the kitchen is apparently it is slightly more water tolerant but we clean it very carefully by hand with a damp cloth (occasionally with the steamer very quickly) rather than mopping.

I couldn't stand a bedroom without a window you can see out of (no a high velux doesn't count) but I would also strongly dislike a bathroom with no window.

We have no dryer and dry inside/outside on airers, we don't use softener either as I don't like my clothes to smell anyhting but clean and feel we already have enough chemicals in our lives but we do have a water softener which obviously helps.

G and LJ don't forget to look after yourselves as well. Sometimes we all rise to the occasion and cope beyond normal endurance during the 'crisis' period but at a considerable toll once we have time to relax and reflect.

chewmylegoff

poet123 wrote: »

It is a picture of my doppelganger! My friends at work thought it was me and put a copy on my desk last week.

What a coincidence, my avatar came about in EXACTLY the same way!

poet123

Chemo can be a drip in the arm, and also tablets, my friend is currently having Radiotherapy which does involve a machine.

michaels

I think dieting every day definitely results in lowered metabolism, based on the fact that I eat about a zillion calories a day, do no exercise and yet am not overweight on the BMI metric (although of course that is because I have no muscle tone at all which counterbalances the fatty deposits I carry) so basically my body must somehow be dealing with all those calories whereas PN and LIR seem to survice on about quarter as many.

I also question whether the extra longeveity these fasting diets bring is worth it - if you extend your life by 2/7ths but spend 2/7ths of every week feeling miserable, weak and hungry just what is the point?

lostinrates

michaels wrote: »

I think dieting every day definitely results in lowered metabolism, based on the fact that I eat about a zillion calories a day, do no exercise and yet am not overweight on the BMI metric (although of course that is because I have no muscle tone at all which counterbalances the fatty deposits I carry) so basically my body must somehow be dealing with all those calories whereas PN and LIR seem to survice on about quarter as many.

I also question whether the extra longeveity these fasting diets bring is worth it - if you extend your life by 2/7ths but spend 2/7ths of every week feeling miserable, weak and hungry just what is the point?

I have more energy on fast days and actually am not hungry.

My issues with eating are because of complex medical circumstances which I'm sure are contributed to by really stupid lifestyle practices in youth....that many women do, but I happened to be really good at. I don't feel hungry very often at all tbh. (In fact still haven't eaten today because I feel less excited about charcoal biscuits today ). That's part of my problem though. No gauge on hunger.


It was quite hard when I was fit, because eating for exercise with the knowledge that what I needed for fuel and what I wanted to save for weekends and socialising often conflicted. Weekends usually won:o.

Edit...I'm finding the no fruit, low veg thing really, really psychologically difficult. I would have eaten by now if I could have had a raw apple I think. I love apple sauce and keep saying I'll get in the swing of that twice a week. So I will. I have some apple in the freezer I might do later.

Its the three times a day I have the biggest problem with.

bugslet

chewmylegoff wrote: »

In reality those recommended intakes are for people who also do the recommended amount of exercise which is 150 minutes of cardio a week, but I think many people take the average as a starting point and then add extra on top to allow for exercise (whilst simultaneously grossly overestimating the amount of energy the exercise has burned off).

The first forum I joined about 6 years ago was because I was a member of fitbug, which basically involved wearing a pedometer every day and downloading it to the site. Got quite competitive and up to doing 18,000 steps a day, which when you have at least 12 hours of your day blocked off, was quite good going. They did you give a calorie allowance based on a daily step target and your current weight and it did work as a diet.

About 20 years ago I remember something called the rotation diet, which IIRC was a version of alternate day fasting, then a few years ago there was JUDDD ( Johnson up day down day diet) which was the same thing. Seems there is nothing new in the world of diets. So far none work as I can't beat my chronic lack of willpower when faced with food.:mad:

lemonjelly wrote: »

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But there are god times too. Friend loves fireworks, & I knew they had to avoid the crowds, & weren't strong enough to attend anyway, so filled a flask, got a few munchies, drove to their home & picked them up (not saying where or why), parked on a hill overlooking the city, & could see loads and loads of displays going on, whilst drinking hot drinks, & being pretty comfortable & warm.
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LJ, what a lovely thing to do for someone. Best wishes to you and your Dad.

And best wishes to Gen as well.