tipping the home delivery driver

Not had much luck with threads on here so going for a simple one: do you/should I tip the delivery driver when i get my weekly shop delivered? I live on the second floor if that makes a difference.
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  • Browntoa
    Browntoa Posts: 49,592 Forumite
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    I would'nt .........
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  • I don't tip for my regular weekly delivery, but I do tip a fiver on the last shop before Christmas.
  • Miggie
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    I wouldn't generally - just a thank you. However, on Tuesday my driver's hands were blue as he had no gloves so I gave him a pair of mine. :)
  • Davef_2
    Davef_2 Posts: 24 Forumite
    I wouldn't no but if it's a regular driver you could always give him/her a christmas tip as a thank you.
  • sniggings
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    edited 6 December 2013 at 3:29PM
    no, and I hate that I feel I have to tip a taxi driver.

    Lets not get to where the USA is, tipping every god dam person, even if the service you get is bad, saying that even if it's good, that is what they get paid for, the wages should be enough without tipping, if they are not then the government needs to act.

    I remeber walking into restaurants in the US, as they knew they would be getting a tip no matter what the service the service tended to be only average at best, so tipping there imo has made the service worse not better, one restaurant we went in even told us straight away that the bill would include a 14% service charge, a real incentive for the waiter to not bother as he knew he had his tip even before we sat down.
  • sarah1972
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    This has been discussed a few times before, last years post is here
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4251105

    I dont tip my delivery driver simply because:

    a: They are not allowed to accept tips from customers
    b: I have a different driver every week
    c: I usually take the bags off the driver from the van myself.
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  • Edwardia
    Edwardia Posts: 9,170 Forumite
    sniggings in the USA the Federal minimum hourly rate for waiters and waitresses is $2.15 and hasn't changed for 22 years. There was a story on Bloomberg about it.

    According to the local state laws employers can take into account how much the wait staff get in tips when paying them and the combined total is supposed to reach a minimum level but in many states employers get away with not paying it. The state law may specify $6.75ph in New Mexico or $7.25ph in California but if the employer ignores that and pays $2.15ph the wait staff are very heavily dependent on tips.

    Benefits, vacation time and employment rights are far worse in USA and there's no NHS either. Obama wanted to up the rate but I don't know it it's law yet.

    OP good question. I don't tip weekly but as I get the same Abel & Cole and Riverford drivers every week I may give them something.

    I had Tesco deliveries and I felt the driver was hanging around for a tip. Ocado specifically asks customers not to tip drivers I think ?
  • maman
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    Just as a general point: I understand that many people in service industries are very poorly paid but I'd still only tip for good service. I always feel a tip is intended for that not just an entitlement.


    Incidentally, I never tip my hairdresser as he's the owner of the salon and does very well thank you. When a young assistant has occasionally done my hair I have tipped her.


    And a question: why is it that some restaurants include a 'service charge' for large parties (8+?) but not for smaller groups? Anyone know?
  • compmad1
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    edited 6 December 2013 at 7:17PM
    I don't believe in tipping anyone these days because there are a lot of people on the minimum wage who work hard and don't get tips. Why is a waiter or hairdresser more worthy of a tip than a hospital cleaner or a shelf stacker in Tesco? Before the minimum wage many people who served at tables only got what they earned in tips. A friend of mine stopped giving her hairdresser a generous tip when she told her that she had at least three foreign holidays a year funded by tips. My friend can't afford holidays like that. It's only particular occupations that have traditionally generated tips. Everybody else gets nothing.
  • sniggings
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    Edwardia wrote: »
    sniggings in the USA the Federal minimum hourly rate for waiters and waitresses is $2.15 and hasn't changed for 22 years. There was a story on Bloomberg about it.

    According to the local state laws employers can take into account how much the wait staff get in tips when paying them and the combined total is supposed to reach a minimum level but in many states employers get away with not paying it. The state law may specify $6.75ph in New Mexico or $7.25ph in California but if the employer ignores that and pays $2.15ph the wait staff are very heavily dependent on tips.

    Benefits, vacation time and employment rights are far worse in USA and there's no NHS either. Obama wanted to up the rate but I don't know it it's law yet.

    OP good question. I don't tip weekly but as I get the same Abel & Cole and Riverford drivers every week I may give them something.

    I had Tesco deliveries and I felt the driver was hanging around for a tip. Ocado specifically asks customers not to tip drivers I think ?

    I did qualify my no tipping stance with " if they are not (paid enough) then the government needs to act" as I know the argument for tipping in the US is different to the UK.

    But my point still stands even in the USA regarding the effect that giving an automatic tip has on service, I do not support tipping to support low wages, I also do not support tipping 10% for bad/average service and 15% for good service which seems to be the accepted rule in the US, seems to be even if your food is thrown at you, you still tip the waiter.
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