A Bleak Christmas for Tesco ?

NeverInDebt

Haven't shopped in Tesco for about a month or so, same with Morrisons. Main reason I dont shop much in Tesco is I dont trust them, they always looking at ways to try and deceive you with misleading price drops, they seem far worse that all the others put together . Morrisons well our local one is crap even when it had face lift earlier this year, but still better than Tesco which is tired store and sell little no food goods it a old Tesco built in 1980's. Like Sainsbury's there food is much better quality than all the rest although slightly more expensive but I got to stage I rather pay that bit more and have quality over quantity

geordie_joe

ALIBOBSY wrote: »

I live in a semi rural area and know quite alot of farmers and Tesco are far worse than any of the other big stores to deal with. They aren't just hardnosed, they are downright immoral in the way they deal with their suppliers.

This illustrates my point about there being too much food perfectly.

Tesco can pick the best and leave the rest because too much is being produced. I'm sure every other supermarket does the same too. The reason they do it is because they know their customers will do the same. They look at a crop and may think it is good enough, or within the limits or guidelines, but if other farmers can sell them enough better celery then they won't buy that farmers celery.

People go on about waitrose and sainsbury fruit and veg being better quality the tesco. But how is that? Do they have smarter farmers, is their land better? No, it's because of the same reason, more than is needed is grown, the best is picked and the rest is rejected.

Then when it gets into the supermarket the customers do exactly the same thing. They look at what is available and pick the best. Only when the customers do it it is "natural" and "common sense" but when a supermarket buyer does it they are bad.

I feel sorry for the farmers, but it's not just them. Every buyer in the world will either pick the best they can for the price they are willing to pay, or find the cheapest price they can for the quality they want.

stephen77

geordie_joe wrote: »

Then when it gets into the supermarket the customers do exactly the same thing. They look at what is available and pick the best. Only when the customers do it it is "natural" and "common sense" but when a supermarket buyer does it they are bad.

I feel sorry for the farmers, but it's not just them. Every buyer in the world will either pick the best they can for the price they are willing to pay, or find the cheapest price they can for the quality they want.

Its bad when Tesco et al look for the best deal and discard anything that is not up to the standards they believe there customers will pay for.
However when the consumer have a website dedicated for looking at the best deal. Then its a good thing.


I feel some hypocrisy & double standards.
The vast majority of people want to save / make money. Just that big business gets flack for it.

paulineb_2

I went into Tesco today as its the only supermarket near me that sells frozen spinach, its up again, now its £1.30 for a 1kg bag, a few months ago it was a pound. Ive also recently bought a 1kg bag of chargrilled frozen veg, last week it was £1.40 for a kg. Now its £1.85. I didnt buy it, cant justify it at that price. Quite sure Tesco arent the only shop who raise prices quite steeply at times, but as I said earlier when you are on a low income, every penny counts, a 30 per cent price rise on an item is where I vote with my purse and refuse to buy it.

paulineb_2

The customer service in my local tesco can verge on the shocking at times. I stood at the self service for about 10 minutes a few weeks ago waiting for assistance. Many of the checkout people in my local Tesco are snail slow, too busy chatting to one another. It can be a ridiculously frustrating experience and thats why I much prefer to shop in aldi, everything goes through the checkout quickly and with minimum fuss.

As for misshapen fruit and veg, wouldnt bother me in the slightest. Im lucky in that I have a food co op very near me and another one has just opened so between that and aldi, I can get what I need cheaply, very rarely buy any fruit or veg in Tesco due to the price.

I actually did a sainsbury online shop today as I had a 15 quid off e voucher, managed to save 11 quid or so on multi buy deals plus the e voucher as well, even with delivery was happy enough with what I spent. The nearest sainsburys to me is about 7 miles away and I dont drive but I rarely shop there in person.

I was in London this week doing a couple of courses and shopped a few times in the sainsbury local, very few basics prices and compared to Scotland, some of the prices were eyewatering to say the least. A few items were the same but a lot were much more expensive.

Was very happy to get home and get to home bargains. I also like that store, even when its busy, the staff are extremely pleasant and helpful and theres lots of bargains to be had.

ALIBOBSY

geordie_joe wrote: »

This illustrates my point about there being too much food perfectly.

Tesco can pick the best and leave the rest because too much is being produced. I'm sure every other supermarket does the same too. The reason they do it is because they know their customers will do the same. They look at a crop and may think it is good enough, or within the limits or guidelines, but if other farmers can sell them enough better celery then they won't buy that farmers celery.

People go on about waitrose and sainsbury fruit and veg being better quality the tesco. But how is that? Do they have smarter farmers, is their land better? No, it's because of the same reason, more than is needed is grown, the best is picked and the rest is rejected.

Then when it gets into the supermarket the customers do exactly the same thing. They look at what is available and pick the best. Only when the customers do it it is "natural" and "common sense" but when a supermarket buyer does it they are bad.

I feel sorry for the farmers, but it's not just them. Every buyer in the world will either pick the best they can for the price they are willing to pay, or find the cheapest price they can for the quality they want.

OK so tesco are big enough and greedy enough to dump a crop and buy elsewhere, but then the original contract doesn't allow the farmer to sell the product elsewhere otherwise they threaten to stop buying other/future crops from you. So basically the farmer was told we are going elsewhere for our celery so tough, but you can't sell the stuff to others as that might have an effect on our prices, so get rid and waste tons and tons of food because we are greedy barstewards.

Its like with wine, Tesco boast they are the biggest wine buyer in the WORLD, therefore they have massive buying power with the wine producers. So they could be hugely undercutting everyone else on wine no problem, but instead choose to be greedy and sell at around the same price as every other store.

There is running a business and making a FAIR profit and then there is ripping the XXXX out of consumers. Tesco and to a lessor degree the other supermarkets think its OK to run a company with zero morality both in dealings with suppliers and customers and just like the bank just saying well we are maximising profit who cares about anything else is wrong.

But I doubt much will change any time soon sadly lol.

Ali x

stephen77

ALIBOBSY wrote: »

OK so tesco are big enough and greedy enough to dump a crop and buy elsewhere, but then the original contract doesn't allow the farmer to sell the product elsewhere otherwise they threaten to stop buying other/future crops from you. So basically the farmer was told we are going elsewhere for our celery so tough, but you can't sell the stuff to others as that might have an effect on our prices, so get rid and waste tons and tons of food because we are greedy barstewards.

Its like with wine, Tesco boast they are the biggest wine buyer in the WORLD, therefore they have massive buying power with the wine producers. So they could be hugely undercutting everyone else on wine no problem, but instead choose to be greedy and sell at around the same price as every other store.

There is running a business and making a FAIR profit and then there is ripping the XXXX out of consumers. Tesco and to a lessor degree the other supermarkets think its OK to run a company with zero morality both in dealings with suppliers and customers and just like the bank just saying well we are maximising profit who cares about anything else is wrong.

But I doubt much will change any time soon sadly lol.

Ali x

What are Tesco doing morally that the other major super markets not doing then as they to a lesser degree not quite as immoral?




what is a fair profit on food?
http://seekingalpha.com/article/206493-the-10-most-profitable-british-companies


Tesco are not in the top 10 and there turnover is comparable to some other companies on that list.


How many meetings have you been in with the major super markets?

Edwardia

I have to say that the organic produce in some supermarkets is dire. It feels like the buyers buy to a price not a quality ie they'll set a price they have to buy for to add X profit and just buy what they can get.

Recently, Sainsbury's has had 750g organic British carrots for £1, but each bag contained only five big very bumpy carrots. Sainsbury's has been selling really skinny organic leeks which had the top layer detaching like baggy trousers.