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Energy bills to fall
Glen_Clark
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Apparently the Green Levy part of the bill will be foisted on to taxpayers instead of energy users, in the hope taxpayers won't notice http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10485494/Energy-bills-expected-to-fall-50-a-year-following-cuts-to-green-levies.html
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair
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So do you prefer the green crap to be forced on those who can barely afford to heat their homes.
Putting such measures onto general taxation is more progressive.That gum you like is coming back in style.0 -
I'd prefer it not to be foisted either way personally. If you must have it then take it out of suppliers huge profits & shareholders dividends rather than the hard pressed tax payer.
Whilst it was Milliband who brought them in Cameron claimed to be the green party when elected & his turn around on the green issues in less than a Parliament therefore does little for his credibility as a trustworthy PM in my opinion
As to bills falling I'll believe that when I see it. More likely the price increases will continue / prices be maintained at current levels over a fairly short period & the good old tax payer will be paying twice!0 -
Suppliers profits are around 5%. You cannot cut those at the same time as begging the energy companies to invest in desperately needed new power stations!!I'd prefer it not to be foisted either way personally. If you must have it then take it out of suppliers huge profits & shareholders dividends rather than the hard pressed tax payer.
:rotfl: How much credibility do you give to someone who devises a scheme that inflates house prices, and then calls it 'Help to Buy' :rotfl:Cameron ....... his credibility as a trustworthy PM“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
There are wealthy taxpayers and poor energy users, and vice versa.So do you prefer the green crap to be forced on those who can barely afford to heat their homes.
Putting such measures onto general taxation is more progressive.
Everybody pays taxes. Even the guy sleeping in a cardboard box on the street pays taxes - VAT on takeaway food.
So I can't see how its fairer to foist energy production costs on the taxpayer than on the energy user. But then what has politics to do with fairness?“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
How do we know what Cameron has previously said? I mean, it's not like you can look it up on the Tory's website anymore, is it?
PS In all seriousness this is definitely going to happen and then it's a matter of what happens with the punters who have jumped on the Fixed Bandwagon (TM)? No wonder all the cheap deals at the moment are fixed ones. Crafty b*ggers.0 -
MillicentBystander wrote: »How do we know what Cameron has previously said? I mean, it's not like you can look it up on the Tory's website anymore, is it?
PS In all seriousness this is definitely going to happen and then it's a matter of what happens with the punters who have jumped on the Fixed Bandwagon (TM)? No wonder all the cheap deals at the moment are fixed ones. Crafty b*ggers.
:rotfl: worth about as much as Cameron's election promises to savers which been deleted too: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/pensions/10457090/Camerons-broken-promise-to-savers-costs-68bn.html“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0 -
So everyone on a fixed price tariff pays twice0
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How the winds of fortune change.
Only in October were the lemmings jumping onto the 2017 fixes.
Those who dumped their cheap April 2014 fixes in favour of 2017 fixes must be sharpening their swords for seppuku right now.
I would say the right time for ritual disembowelment is just after the Autumn Statement. Die with honour, you wash away your shame with your entrails.0 -
Never been on a fixed tariff. I figure the energy companies have a better idea of future energy prices than me, so I don't fancy betting against them.“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair0
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To be fair to them many experts (including Martin himself) were espousing the value of fixed tariffs for all so it's easy to see why many went for them, I suppose. But every time you see fixed deals dominating the upper reaches of the switching sites be cynical imo. Question everything.
PS But will the Govt insist that the suppliers reduce fixed tariffs to reflect the moving away of green levies from energy bills?0
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