Mobile phone confiscated

MamaMoo_2

mumps wrote: »

Funny how they manage to arrange things with 5 year olds, or did she do the walk by herself then as well?

Did they manage it with a 5 year old? I don't know what the situation was prior to her being at my school, so unless you're part of her family then nor do you.
It's entirely possible there was a school bus or ride share to primary school, or maybe she was homeschooled. Or maybe she lived somewhere else prior to her mom meeting her step-dad, highly likely as it was his house! As I say, I don't know so it's pointless to speculate on how or why things change.

notanewuser

ThumbRemote wrote: »

To whom?

"Ever likely we now" - what sort of a grammatical construction is that?
"have generations ... leaving school" - So we now, currently, at this time, have generations leaving school? We have parents and children together?
"of illiterate, innumerate yobs" - Now you're just using hyperbole instead of making sense.



4 sentences. Every one complete rubbish, filled with the same hyperbole as before. I presume you read the Daily Mail.

No poppet, I'm allergic to the Daily Mail.

Nothing wrong with my grammar, and the "hyperbole" is actually proven. I make a living from helping the companies unfortunate enough to employ these "young adults" when they leave school.

And yes, generations, since those teenagers could reasonably have parents in their thirties, forties or fifties (or even older).

MamaMoo_2

mumps wrote: »

But the OP doesn't think schools have a right to enforce rules (and laws are rules) to keep children safe. I still think the issue is with the child who broke the rules.

Rules and laws are not one and the same.
How many times on the forums have we seen people rip T&Cs to shreds because they aren't legal.
This is what was being questioned here, the legality of the rules.

I dyed my hair pink once, that was against school rules. Sure as hell wasn't illegal, nor did it harm anyone else. And when the school tried to enforce their rules they ended up in very hot water, but that's another story.

notanewuser

MamaMoo wrote: »

Rules and laws are not one and the same.
How many times on the forums have we seen people rip T&Cs to shreds because they aren't legal.
This is what was being questioned here, the legality of the rules.

I dyed my hair pink once, that was against school rules. Sure as he'll wasn't illegal, nor did it harm anyone else. And when the school tried to enforce their rules they ended up in very hot water, but that's another story.

Could have guessed that.

mumps

ThumbRemote wrote: »

Maybe they were homeschooled. but the parent doesn't have the required skills to do that at secondary level.

Or maybe you've just got some really odd views, and it's none of your business anyway.

Well it was posted on a public forum as some sort of justification for a child breaking school rules so I am perfectly entitled to give my opinion which is the child's safety on her journey home is not a reason for her being allowed to break school rules.

mumps

ThumbRemote wrote: »

There was no need to a teacher to be involved at this stage. It could easily be handled by the office staff.

If the teacher did need to be involved, then whoever phoned Mrs halibut2209 should have stated the time they needed to come; not just that they needed to collect it.

If the teacher was in possession of the phone then it would have involved the teacher. Mrs halibut2209 could have asked when it would be convenient for her to collect the phone before she made the journey.

mumps

MamaMoo wrote: »

Did they manage it with a 5 year old? I don't know what the situation was prior to her being at my school, so unless you're part of her family then nor do you.
It's entirely possible there was a school bus or ride share to primary school, or maybe she was homeschooled. Or maybe she lived somewhere else prior to her mom meeting her step-dad, highly likely as it was his house! As I say, I don't know so it's pointless to speculate on how or why things change.

But the point is it is their responsibility now as it was when she was five so just saying parents have other things to do so "can't" collect child from bus is not relevant. The thing we don't have to speculate about is it was the child who broke the rules, and didn't someone say it wasn't a first offence?

MamaMoo_2

mumps wrote: »

Well it was posted on a public forum as some sort of justification for a child breaking school rules so I am perfectly entitled to give my opinion which is the child's safety on her journey home is not a reason for her being allowed to break school rules.

She didn't break the rules because of her journey home.
However out of school hours it really isn't acceptable for the school to keep hold of a pupil's phone. It's not causing a nuisance once school is over, and it's not practical for parents to get to the school all the time. In this situation, and having made contact with the parents etc. it seems entirely unreasonable to keep hold of the phone.

MamaMoo_2

mumps wrote: »

But the point is it is their responsibility now as it was when she was five so just saying parents have other things to do so "can't" collect child from bus is not relevant. The thing we don't have to speculate about is it was the child who broke the rules, and didn't someone say it wasn't a first offence?

You're assuming there though that there's no change in circumstances and also a person's capabilities between the ages of 5 and 15!
Yes, she broke the rules, and therefore it's entirely reasonable for the school to confiscate the phone during school hours. Out of school hours, however, it's not appropriate.

mumps

notanewuser wrote: »

Nothing wrong with my grammar, and the "hyperbole" is actually proven. I make a living from helping the companies unfortunate enough to employ these "young adults" when they leave school.

And as an employer I deal with the ones who don't understand that they have to get to work on time, can't play with their smart phones when working etc. Obviously this doesn't go for all young people but it is remarkably common and you can predict who will get their mom or dad to phone up about it. They are always so surprised when I can't discuss it with them.