Eurocar parts..any good?

AdrianC

Stoke wrote: »

You didn't read what I said properly. They source the parts from unbranded manufacturers, then ECP names them stuff like Eicher, Stossdampfer etc. Doing this is misleading but also means there's no traceability to one manufacturer. To me that's poor sales practice. My opinion.

Sounds just like perfectly normal "own-brand". Just the same as all the supermarkets do with food. Is that "poor sales practice", too?

red_eye

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

If the car didn't have the original engine in it, then what use is his reg number? he'd need to know the reg number of the car that the engine came out of.

only if dvla have not been told ie if the old engine code is still on the log book

red_eye

Stoke wrote: »

Parts sell out quicker than computers are updated, that's utter tosh. I'm sorry to say, unless their system is disgustingly inefficient and has issues synchronizing with their front desks.

You didn't read what I said properly. They source the parts from unbranded manufacturers, then ECP names them stuff like Eicher, Stossdampfer etc. Doing this is misleading but also means there's no traceability to one manufacturer. To me that's poor sales practice. My opinion.

so what you are saying is that while your entering all your details into the website no one is going to walk in to ECP and purchase? I can buy anything in less time it takes you to purchase online

why on earth would you want to trace where the pads came from? ECP... IF ECP have re branded the pads then they are liable they also have to comfort to a minimum safety standard as all products sold in the UK have to be. re branding goes on everywhere supermarkets do it sealy tools, silverline even mac and snap on are at it

Stoke

bigjl wrote: »

Your wrong on the Eicher subject.

It is an Indian brand and I hAve seen them stocked elsewhere.

Fitted them to a couple of vehicles now without issue

Produced less dust than the OE Pagid pads that were on one of the vehicles strangely enough.

I have only ever bought premium name brand filters though so have no idea who makes the cheaper ones.

Wrong. Eicher in India make vehicles, primarily trucks, for their market. They do not produce ECP's cheap brake pads, I assure you, but the irony is you yourself have been confused by this naming practice by ECP.

AdrianC wrote: »

Sounds just like perfectly normal "own-brand". Just the same as all the supermarkets do with food. Is that "poor sales practice", too?

It's a bit different in a supermarket I'd say, but fair enough your point is valid.

red_eye wrote: »

so what you are saying is that while your entering all your details into the website no one is going to walk in to ECP and purchase? I can buy anything in less time it takes you to purchase online

why on earth would you want to trace where the pads came from? ECP... IF ECP have re branded the pads then they are liable they also have to comfort to a minimum safety standard as all products sold in the UK have to be. re branding goes on everywhere supermarkets do it sealy tools, silverline even mac and snap on are at it

There is certainly a chance of someone walking in, but once the item is paid for, any decent computer system would automatically update the stock levels. The likelihood of a synchronicity issue with that is almost non-existent, unless as I said, their system isn't well designed. As I am a software engineer by trade, I know how the development of large database systems can be done right... and wrong.

ECP may well be liable, but like any company they're prone to arguing user error when it's clear the pads aren't suitable. Many reports of warped discs on the internet due to the pads, and ECP refusing to acknowledge this saying "oh you must have fitted it wrong".

AdrianC

red_eye wrote: »

only if dvla have not been told ie if the old engine code is still on the log book

I very much doubt that the look-ups are undertaken to that extent. They will merely take the plate, look up the make/model, and reference that to the parts manufacturer's catalogue.

Even that's far from infallible - I received a rear wiper blade for the Shogun the other day from Mister Auto. It'd been picked through the drop-down by make/model, and was indeed the right length. But it wasn't listed on the box as fitting, and - sho'nuff - it didn't even come close to the arm's fitment.

red_eye

Stoke wrote: »

Wrong. Eicher in India make vehicles, primarily trucks, for their market. They do not produce ECP's cheap brake pads, I assure you, but the irony is you yourself have been confused by this naming practice by ECP.


It's a bit different in a supermarket I'd say, but fair enough your point is valid.


There is certainly a chance of someone walking in, but once the item is paid for, any decent computer system would automatically update the stock levels. The likelihood of a synchronicity issue with that is almost non-existent, unless as I said, their system isn't well designed. As I am a software engineer by trade, I know how the development of large database systems can be done right... and wrong.

ECP may well be liable, but like any company they're prone to arguing user error when it's clear the pads aren't suitable. Many reports of warped discs on the internet due to the pads, and ECP refusing to acknowledge this saying "oh you must have fitted it wrong".

like I said tight fisted numb nuts coming back because of squeealing brakes

AdrianC

Stoke wrote: »

There is certainly a chance of someone walking in, but once the item is paid for, any decent computer system would automatically update the stock levels. The likelihood of a synchronicity issue with that is almost non-existent, unless as I said, their system isn't well designed. As I am a software engineer by trade, I know how the development of large database systems can be done right... and wrong.

Bloke walks in to store. "I'd like a widget for my car, please. Looks like this." <thud>

Guy behind counter wanders to shelves. Takes several possibilities off, and back to counter. Five minutes of comparing later, he scans the right one, takes payment, waves customer goodbye, deals with the queue that's built up - then puts the other two back on the shelf.

londonTiger

Stoke wrote: »

ECP are okay. Not the cheapest though, despite what they claim.

They also have this cheeky practice of selling an item, without necessarily having it in stock. I bought a set of axle stands from them and they debited my account then informed me the item wasn't in stock and that I should consider any of the other sets they had in stock (which of course were much more expensive). They happily refunded my money but it took a few days to go back in.

It's common practice for many trade retailers to do this, motor factors are the biggest culprits!

It's impossible for them to stock every single item in one warehouse. Many times they'll have it in their main warehouse which will transport goods to the local store. Or other times they'll just transport it directly from manufacturers dropshipping style

Paul_the_Painter

To remove any confusion, and only slightly off topic....
The original engine was a 1.7 Ford Crossflow (1993), replaced by a 2.0 Ford Duratec/Zetec (in 2008) which came new as a bare crated engine from the Ford engine factory (i.e. no ancillaries fitted) built up by a tuning company, with different cams/pistons etc etc, then custom mounts were made for, among other things, the alternator. (This was before Caterham fitted the Zetec/Duratec in the factory) DVLA records would not have helped!
So I still reckon ECP did a bloody good job.

misterbarlow

i recently needed a new lambda sensor after it broke changing the exhaust... they wanted £70 there, got one brand new on ebay for £35 and works perfect...