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Moved to New home with Water Meter. Can It changed to Unmetered water bill?

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  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,059 Forumite
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    HappyMJ wrote: »
    If a meter can not be fitted then you can ask for the water company to charge you a lower amount based on the occupancy of the house if the rateable value is high.

    Those are assessed charges and some companies base the charge on the amount of bedrooms, not occupancy.
  • macman
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    HappyMJ wrote: »
    You can get a meter installed...even if you are renting you still have a right to ask for a meter. If a meter can not be fitted then you can ask for the water company to charge you a lower amount based on the occupancy of the house if the rateable value is high.

    Only if your STA is 6 months or longer.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • awara
    awara Posts: 48 Forumite
    Hi again
    Thanks for all your replies.
    found this

    If the meter was fitted prior to December 1995 and you are the customer who originally requested the meter to be fitted and paid for the installation, you are able to revert back to unmeasured charges

    http://www.stwater.co.uk/your-account/1/can-i-change-back-to-unmeasured-charges
  • Cardew
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    awara wrote: »
    Hi again
    Thanks for all your replies.
    found this

    If the meter was fitted prior to December 1995 and you are the customer who originally requested the meter to be fitted and paid for the installation, you are able to revert back to unmeasured charges

    http://www.stwater.co.uk/your-account/1/can-i-change-back-to-unmeasured-charges

    That's interesting. I am with Severn Trent and had a meter fitted at my expense in 1990.

    I currently pay around £450pa.

    If I reverted back to unmeasured I would pay errr - £1,583.61 - don't think I'll bother;)
  • giraffe69
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    If the meter was fitted prior to December 1995 and you are the customer who originally requested the meter to be fitted and paid for the installation, you are able to revert back to unmeasured charges

    Not a great offer as the number of those living in the same place for 18+ years minus ones who won't save as in the post above won't lead to a rush of people wanting to take advantage.
    A meter is a no brainer for those who live alone or where there are two people in a house. If there are more it can be different and probably depends on whether you are prepared to take any action to trim your usage.
  • Cardew
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    giraffe69 wrote: »
    Not a great offer as the number of those living in the same place for 18+ years minus ones who won't save as in the post above won't lead to a rush of people wanting to take advantage.
    A meter is a no brainer for those who live alone or where there are two people in a house. If there are more it can be different and probably depends on whether you are prepared to take any action to trim your usage.

    The problem is the utter stupidity of using the Rateable Value(RV) as the basis of a Utility Bill.

    Most older properties in England and Wales had their RV last assessed in 1973, and it stopped altogether in 1990 when meters were made mandatory for new property and the Poll tax took over from RV as the means of raising 'local taxation'.

    RV was nothing to do with the value of the property, but based on the notional rent the property could command; all sorts of factors were taken into account in assessing the RV, modernisation(by 1973 standards) garage, bus routes, schools etc.

    I know of huge 'mansions' in many acres that are now Band H and worth a bomb. However they were virtually derelict in 1973 and as nobody would ever want to rent such a heap, they had a peppercorn RV of £50 or so. Even though they are now modernised they still retain that RV and pay about £100 a year.

    Of course they should have declared the modernisation and got a meter - but the water company don't bother and unsurprisingly neither do the owners.
  • dogshome
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    Be careful of what you wish for, even though that wish cannot be granted

    The water bill in your previous home was based on it's Rateable Value, which is now an entirely defunct property value system for everyone except Water Co's

    RV values are ancient and full of anomolies, whereby a tiny cottage was paying a lot, compared to a Mansion up the road that was built earlier
    Comparing what your meter based bill will be in the new home, with that of the RV based bill in the old house is comparing Apples & Pears
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