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Waiting on NtK

Hi All
I received a £100 fine for overstaying by 14mins in a car park outside my house (there were no other spaces) from Armtrac.
I must appeal within 28days and the NtK will take 28days +, surely I'll have to appeal first? Or I'll miss the appeal deadline and not get a POPLA code?
I'm thinking of submitting a similar letter to those which have worked in the past any thoughts?
They also state you must provide the name and address of driver if different from keeper - how do I challenge this?

Comments

  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    As this is a ticket on car you should wait for the NtK to arrive, it must be with you between days 29-56 after parking.

    And if they are saying you must name the driver then that is a lie and a breach, forward that letter to the bpa and dvla, say you are the RK of the vehicle don't mention who the driver is.

    Make complaints on that this can be dealt with as the RK as that is what pofa 2012 is all about

    foi@dvla.gsi.gov.uk &
    aos@britishparking.co.uk
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
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  • ke92
    ke92 Posts: 16 Forumite
    Ok thanks. I'm still unclear on waiting for the NtK even having read the forums Armtrac say
    "If you wish to appeal against this Parking charge Notice you should submit your case in writing or email (address on front of Notice) within 28days from the date of issue. All correspondence must include your name, address, the name and address of the driver (if different), vehicle registration and Notice reference number...."

    Does this mean after receiving the NtK, i.e. over 28days I can still make a 'soft' appeal.
    This is my second dispute with Armtrac and they previously emailed me back saying I must name the driver before the case was heard - do I submit this in my POPLA appeal?
    Thanks
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,583 Forumite
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    edited 19 November 2013 at 1:03PM
    Right, there are two appeal chances (England/Wales) and unless it's a hire/company car, your case is stronger as KEEPER NOT DRIVER, at the 2nd chance stage:

    - the ticket on the windscreen gives the driver their chance to appeal. Appeal as driver? DON'T!

    - the notice to keeper (first letter next month) gives the owner/keeper their chance to appeal even if it's a rubbish formal demand letter. Appeal as keeper? YES!

    Really you'd have been best to read the sticky threads as it's all explained here on page one near the top:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163

    Just read 'newbies...read this now!' because it's all covered there already. I wouldn't bother yet to report them to the BPA and DVLA as I expect there will be more wrong with the first letter and you could complain about the whole shebang later.


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  • ke92
    ke92 Posts: 16 Forumite
    Thank you, its been over 60 days and still no NtK...I guess im good
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    ke92 wrote: »
    Thank you, its been over 60 days and still no NtK...I guess im good

    They may still contact you. It's just that being late means they can no longer pursue keeper liability. Still doesn't stop you playing along and killing them at POPLA anyway. ;)
  • You may well receive one. However, it will be too late for them to invoke Keeper Liability under PoFA.

    The other option is that you eventually get a Debt Collector letter. They will claim they sent out an NtK. The will be lying.
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