Parking ticket in my own space at my own house!!

4consumerrights

CASJENKINS DO NOT HEED THE COMMENTS BY EITHER DUTR:

I'm certain the T&Cs suggest that the permit must be displayed, that is where you won't win the case.

As Stroma is quite correct in their statement regarding Terms & Conditions which are made up by the parking company and in fact breach the Unfair Terms and Contracts Regulations.

OR THE POST BY ILW:

Could just display your permit, not that difficult. Or just put up with your space being taken by strangers all the time.

ILW is a sad individual who seems to take great delight in posting comments on every board on this forum, which attempt to deliberately provacate posters into an argument or take the purpose of thread completely off course. Just click on his public profile and read some of the comments and unhelpful remarks he makes/

Casjenkins

Thank you so much for all your help. Unfortunately I own my property, not rent it, and these stupid parking rules came in literally a couple of months after buying!! Very annoying!!

ILW thanks for your sarcastic comments, it is a gated community therefore there is no concern about anyone parking in my space and I actually forgot to put the permit in my window rather than making some sort of pointless stand against it. Did your mother never tell you to say nothing at all if you have nothing nice to say?

ILW

Stroma wrote: »

Back trolling again I see, do you offer anything constructive at all?

It's a matter of degree.
The alternative is probably a free for all when the permitted person can never use their space as it will be taken by others. Things are seldom as black and white as you seem to believe.

4consumerrights

So if you own your flat just click on the thread I provided in post #7 above - this is a case of another person owning their flat and ticketed by UKPC!

Casjenkins

Thank you 4consumerrights.

ILW As you stated things are rarely black and white, you don't know the full circumstances of my situation therefore please keep your comments and opinions on the matter to yourself unless they are of any use. Your comments are merely jabs to try to bait me. Not helpful. At all.

ILW

Casjenkins wrote: »

Thank you 4consumerrights.

ILW As you stated things are rarely black and white, you don't know the full circumstances of my situation therefore please keep your comments and opinions on the matter to yourself unless they are of any use. Your comments are merely jabs to try to bait me. Not helpful. At all.

So would you prefer no parking control at all?
As a resident you can put it to the management company.
Chances are you would hardly ever find the space free.

Stroma

Well it comes to this ultimately, as the landowner/leaseholder did you make any loss by you parking there ? If you made no loss there can be no possible claim (not that ukpc goes there). So just do a soft appeal on these lines

Name
Address

Invoice number


Dear UKPC


As the registered keeper of (reg number), I'm in receipt of your notice to keeper invoice, I wish to invoke your appeals process

The keeper rejects that you have authority to issue these invoices on the parking bay where the vehicle was parked, as I am the leaseholder of the property I have not signed any such document that allows you to access my private land, and I revoke any permission you think you have.

Also on the above, the amount charged does not reflect your genuine pre-estimate of loss, as I don't charge to park vehicles in my own private property. Also the signage is not compliant with the bpa code of practice!

If you reject this appeal, send me a popla verification code so I can cost you £27 + vat to have this cancelled on the above and other points.

Sincerely

spacey2012

I would not use revoke.

nigelbb

DUTR wrote: »

I don't know, I'm not faced with the scenario, but the logic with the permits to be displayed stand to reason, the residents near a local polytechnic (ok university) have permits to park on the streets nearby, visitors do not, well they do if they can loan a permit, it is the display of the permit that evades any penalty, ok around here it's the council, but in the case of the OP, if some 'stranger ' had parked in his allocated space without a permit, the tune maybe different

You seem to think that the whole point of the scheme is to to have cars displaying permits whereas it's to ensure that only authorised cars are parked & displaying a permit is merely an aid to that management. If it is shown that an authorised car was parked but not displaying a permit why should that be punished with exactly the same fine that would be dished out to an unauthorised car?

Half_way

As ever check any paperwork that you have in relation to your property ( lease/landholder rights etc)

Next read this: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?377246-UKPC-liable-for-trespass-**SUCCESS**

Then: make sure that everyone in the gated comunity knows all about this scam, and not to pay UKPC a penny.

At the moment you have a few options open to you:

First of all ask yourself why you should display something in your car that in effect means that you as landowner are granting yourself permission to park on your own land??

Next: forget about the permit(s) and challenge each and every ticket/letter you have with popla you should be able to rack up quite a few challenges, only the parking company are bound by the desicions made by popla, and if it is your land and the lease/paperwork is in order you have nothing to worry about.
If UKPC patrol the site on a regular basis - ie every day you shyould be able to generate a daily challenge/popla request and successful challenge, also your neighbors will be able to do the same.
why not make it a community thing? Just how many ppopla codes can be generated and used in a week/month if no one bothers with the pointless permits?