What shortgage 421,306 homes built in a single year in france!

IveSeenTheLight

martinsurrey wrote: »

http://www.frenchpropertycentre.com/property/aml-13317ds/

can anyone find me a UK build plot of 3/4 of an acre for £15k?

land and planning.

Open up land for self builds and let people build there without a system of red tape that makes mission impossible seem like a walk in the park.

although existing house prices would plummet.

I'm building a self build.
265 sq meters

Planning was not a problem, but finding an available plot was.

The price was far higher than £15k I can assure you

CLAPTON

THE_MASHED_TULIP wrote: »

Last time I checked, in the uk we aren't building any more land. We are an island do its a completely different story to France.

is that because the french are building more land?

Cornucopia

They *have* more land.

210,026 sq miles to our 93,788 sq miles.

Like us, they have sizeable areas that are effectively uninhabitable.

cells

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Ok..........

I'd be interested to understand why they think this when for the last century, the French population has increased at a faster rate than the British

Yeh but if you look at it from the beginning of the universe both have grown at almost exactly the same ratw from zero to 63-65 million. Oh and yes I know how pointless it woild be to look at it from the beginning of the universe or even from a thousand years ago...about as pointless as choosing a hundred years ago as the start date

If you opt for a start date of ten years ago. Both have grown abiut the same rate with the uk speeding up and france slowing down

cells

grizzly1911 wrote: »

The trouble is the demand is concentrated on probably 1% of that.

You also ignore land that can't easily be developed - e.g. Cairngorms, NW Highlands. Lake DIstrict, Pennines etc.

Likely flood areas.

Water absorption areas.

Agricultural use.

Wealthy landowners private estates with all those grouse moors and wind farms.

I am sure the list could continue.

I accept that there would still be capacity but not as glibly post.

There is the space to build about 1.5 billion homes in the uk at village densities
Even if two thirds of that isn't suitable that leaves enough space for over 500 million homes. Well in excess of what we will ever need

MFW_ASAP

martinsurrey wrote: »

http://www.frenchpropertycentre.com/property/aml-13317ds/

can anyone find me a UK build plot of 3/4 of an acre for £15k?

land and planning.

Open up land for self builds and let people build there without a system of red tape that makes mission impossible seem like a walk in the park.

although existing house prices would plummet.

So would the houses if they weren't subject to stingent building control.

MFW_ASAP

ukcarper wrote: »

You talk as if to be concerned about your environment is a bad thing.

It does seem that way. What we need is less population, not more houses.

Cornucopia

MFW_ASAP wrote: »

It does seem that way. What we need is less population, not more houses.

All the indicators point to that not happening. Indeed, the long-term picture is one where demographic issues require either more temporary migrants or the emigration of millions of pensioners.

Cornucopia

MFW_ASAP wrote: »

So would the houses if they weren't subject to stingent building control.

Self-builds are subject to building control.

MFW_ASAP

Cornucopia wrote: »

All the indicators point to that not happening. Indeed, the long-term picture is one where demographic issues require either more temporary migrants or the emigration of millions of pensioners.

Not if we change the way pension schemes rely on taxing the next crop of workers. My personal pensions are all in place to support me without having to be carried by anyone else financially, but then I've never worked in the public sector and so I've never expected to be carried.