Can I escape from flat rent contract because of neighbours?

jc808

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

If he owns the upstairs flat too and at least one other flat, there might be grounds to say "You caused the problem (ie by letting a flat out to people with a newborn)...so the onus is on you to solve it". "Solving it" could equal moving you to another flat.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: utter nonsense

jc808

SerialRenter wrote: »

I do believe that's what the OP is trying to do.
Alas, this world is not perfect and upping and leaving is not so practice due to contracts and commitments.

But yes, maybe for the next place you live, shop by the energy certificate. The more insulation, the better its noise absorbing ability will be due to the additional material between you and them.

That or invest in some good ear plugs

Good insulation does not equal adequate soundproofing

FireWyrm

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

You cannot "sleep train" a newborn.

Yes. You can. I can make all three of mine fall asleep by humming 'twinkle twingle little star' even now aged 10, 8 and 7 months. It's called 'conditioning' and it works on dogs as well as babies.

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

You can introduce a routine to a newborn, I didn't say you couldn't, but you can't train them to sleep. They need to be fed every couple of hours and will wake up regardless.

they wake up when you train them to. If you are in a strong and established routine, they wake up exactly when they are meant to, sometimes to the minute, night after night.

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

At 6 weeks onwards they'll start sleeping for longer, but will, undoubtedly, still wake up for at least one night feed.

The 3am feed goes at about 6 - 8 weeks. You should be shifting to a 11pm - 5am rota. If it doesnt, it's because the baby has trained YOU to come running.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Is there anything more tedious than parents arguing about the best (ie their) way to bring up children?

Gordon_Hose

FireWyrm wrote: »

Yes. You can. I can make all three of mine fall asleep by humming 'twinkle twingle little star' even now aged 10, 8 and 7 months. It's called 'conditioning' and it works on dogs as well as babies.



they wake up when you train them to. If you are in a strong and established routine, they wake up exactly when they are meant to, sometimes to the minute, night after night.



The 3am feed goes at about 6 - 8 weeks. You should be shifting to a 11pm - 5am rota. If it doesnt, it's because the baby has trained YOU to come running.

Rubbish.

Anyway, you carry on arguing. It's all off topic anyway.

donfanatico

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Is there anything more tedious than parents arguing about the best (ie their) way to bring up children?

I agree and this is not what the OP asked. People gave them advice and the only way is to either move out at earliest legal way, use earplugs or get to know the neighbors to see if anything can be done.

If they not willing to do neither of those , then well...suffering is the next way

System

As has been said before, do not give up on ear plugs. Do some research and you may be able to find ones that suit you better.

vacheron

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Sorry, even preparing a bottle doesn't take 10 minutes.

Boil water??? For night feeds??? Surely it's common practice to sterilise the bottles, boil the water and measure out the formula during the day ready for a night feed, then all that is required is to introduce the measured formula (you even get a handy scoop in SMA now!) to the water and a quick whizz in the microwave/bottle warmer.

I've used that method for both my 9 and 2 year olds. If you're boiling water in the middle of the night you might want to rethink how you do things!

That all depends if you have a very cautions wife or not. Personally, my method (providing she wasn't looking ) was:

Boil water, mix 40/60 with pre boiled cold water from the fridge, shake and feed.

...however the missus is a very cautious "letter of the law" kind of girl and what the instructions state is what she will do:

So, in our case (and possibly those of the upstairs neighbour):

http://www.aptaclub.co.uk/products/baby-0-6-months/article/aptamil-first?tab=safeprep

Boil 1 litre of fresh water. Leave kettle to cool for no longer than 30 mins.

For hygiene reasons, do not store made up feeds, discard unfinished feeds as soon as possible, and always within 2 hours. Do not heat feeds in a microwave,

Personally, our son got both and is still very happily alive.:D

ankspon

When you hear people upstairs peeing,defacating,showering,washing up,having sex,walking,talking,cooking,closing doors and drawers you will know what sleepless nights are.

FireWyrm

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Is there anything more tedious than parents arguing about the best (ie their) way to bring up children?

Quite.

Withdrawing from this debate before it gets out of hand.