Can I escape from flat rent contract because of neighbours?

vacheron

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Why would you ever need to leave a newborn baby crying for 10 minutes?

Baby wakes up and cries.
You wake up.
Go to baby
Pick up baby
change nappy
prepare for feeding,

If bottle feeding:
boil water
allow to cool
add formula
check for temperature.
possibly cool some more
bring to baby.... who might not take it straight away.

Good luck doing that lot in much less than 600 seconds!

donfanatico

vacheron wrote: »

Baby wakes up and cries.
You wake up.
Go to baby
Pick up baby
change nappy
prepare for feeding,

If bottle feeding:
boil water
allow to cool
add formula
check for temperature.
possibly cool some more
bring to baby.... who might not take it straight away.

Good luck doing that lot in much less than 600 seconds!

thank you! someone who actually knows...

I hated our upstairs neighbours for the first 3 months when they moved in.. BUT...I actually made the effort to get to know them and SPEAK to them. I explained that we could hear everything and since then it has been a lot quieter....

I would advise to speak to them...maybe they are not aware of what is going on. BE NICE!

Gordon_Hose

vacheron wrote: »

Baby wakes up and cries.
You wake up.
Go to baby
Pick up baby
change nappy
prepare for feeding,

If bottle feeding:
boil water
allow to cool
add formula
check for temperature.
possibly cool some more
bring to baby.... who might not take it straight away.

Good luck doing that lot in much less than 600 seconds!

Sorry, even preparing a bottle doesn't take 10 minutes.

Boil water??? For night feeds??? Surely it's common practice to sterilise the bottles, boil the water and measure out the formula during the day ready for a night feed, then all that is required is to introduce the measured formula (you even get a handy scoop in SMA now!) to the water and a quick whizz in the microwave/bottle warmer.

I've used that method for both my 9 and 2 year olds. If you're boiling water in the middle of the night you might want to rethink how you do things!

And, donfanatico, do you know that I don't know, or are you just assuming? As I've said above I have 2 children, neither of them were left crying for 10 minutes.

kwmlondon

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FireWyrm

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

You can't sleep train a newborn baby, they need to be fed every couple of hours around the clock.

Yes you can.

a) you dont know how old the baby is
b) you most certainly CAN train a baby to wake and sleep at certain times - it's called a routine. Something that is unfashionable at the moment, but works wonders in reality.
c) some babies are inconsolable and cry non-stop for the first few weeks. They have to be taught that you dont come running for fits of temper. The only way they learn to settle themselves into natural sleep is to leave them to it for a while.

FireWyrm

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Sorry, even preparing a bottle doesn't take 10 minutes.

Boil water??? For night feeds??? Surely it's common practice to sterilise the bottles, boil the water and measure out the formula during the day ready for a night feed,

You'd be surprised. My next door neighbour was doing it the hard way until I showed her how to prepare sterilised bottles with boiling water, seal them and leave them to stand ready for night feeds. We prepare 3 bottles at a time in advance using this method and always have.

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

then all that is required is to introduce the measured formula (you even get a handy scoop in SMA now!) to the water and a quick whizz in the microwave/bottle warmer.

Or they quickly learn to take it room temperature. I've never owned a bottle warmer. It came cold or body temperature depending on method of delivery.

sacha28

Gordon House every parent has their own parenting methods and do things that work for them. I did leave mine to cry for 10 mins at a time and I had the full support of my HV as my lo was and still is a troublesome sleeper and are you telling me you would put formula powder into cool water? How on earth would it dissolve?!

I had to bottle feed and I made the bottles up before bedtime, put them in the fridge once cool enough then use a bottle warmer in the night, which still took 5 mins to get the milk to temperature. Midwives frown upon people who do this and say that each bottle has to be made individually, thus boiling kettle, allowing to cool for 20 mins, then putting in formula. Some people wouldn't dare go against government advice on how to bring up their children, perhaps these parents are 2 of them?

I most certainly don't get pleasure out of the OP's plight but people who have never had babies that pass judgement and make assumptions get on my nerves. I have been in the position of the parents OP is referring to, my lo would wake 4/5 times a night (so they seem to be having a good run of things if it's proper newborn!), I would have to warm his bottle, change his nappy and feed him then try and re-settle him. Sometimes nothing would placate him and I would have to walk around for hours trying to calm him down.

Luckily I had very understanding neighbours on both sides that I spoke to about the situation regularly. They both had had children and were happy to give advice rather than judging me.

Gordon_Hose

FireWyrm wrote: »

Yes you can.

a) you dont know how old the baby is
b) you most certainly CAN train a baby to wake and sleep at certain times - it's called a routine. Something that is unfashionable at the moment, but works wonders in reality.
c) some babies are inconsolable and cry non-stop for the first few weeks. They have to be taught that you dont come running for fits of temper. The only way they learn to settle themselves into natural sleep is to leave them to it for a while.

You cannot "sleep train" a newborn. You can introduce a routine to a newborn, I didn't say you couldn't, but you can't train them to sleep. They need to be fed every couple of hours and will wake up regardless. At 6 weeks onwards they'll start sleeping for longer, but will, undoubtedly, still wake up for at least one night feed.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

OP, I sympathise deeply as I once lived in a flat that we discovered had paper-thin walls after moving in. There was a young baby on one side and an awful woman with a noisy toddler on the other; through the night it was the baby yowling and all day it was her swearing at her child.

I found having the tv/radio on as a background murmur helped cover the noise while I tried to doze off.

Look on the bright side; six months isn't THAT long and at least you can then move. If you own the property and have annoying neighbours it'sm more difficult.

Gordon_Hose

sacha28 wrote: »

Gordon House every parent has their own parenting methods and do things that work for them. I did leave mine to cry for 10 mins at a time and I had the full support of my HV as my lo was and still is a troublesome sleeper and are you telling me you would put formula powder into cool water? How on earth would it dissolve?!

I had to bottle feed and I made the bottles up before bedtime, put them in the fridge once cool enough then use a bottle warmer in the night, which still took 5 mins to get the milk to temperature. Midwives frown upon people who do this and say that each bottle has to be made individually, thus boiling kettle, allowing to cool for 20 mins, then putting in formula. Some people wouldn't dare go against government advice on how to bring up their children, perhaps these parents are 2 of them?

I most certainly don't get pleasure out of the OP's plight but people who have never had babies that pass judgement and make assumptions get on my nerves. I have been in the position of the parents OP is referring to, my lo would wake 4/5 times a night (so they seem to be having a good run of things if it's proper newborn!), I would have to warm his bottle, change his nappy and feed him then try and re-settle him. Sometimes nothing would placate him and I would have to walk around for hours trying to calm him down.

Luckily I had very understanding neighbours on both sides that I spoke to about the situation regularly. They both had had children and were happy to give advice rather than judging me.

I would never, and have never, leave a newborn to cry for 10 minutes. Both my children are great sleepers.

Formula dissolves fine in cold water. Try it.

HV's say a lot of things, but you need to find out what works for you. Boiling water whilst being half asleep is a recipe for disaster in it's own right.

But we digress. I'm just shocked that people would actually leave a newborn to cry for 10 minutes.

Hope the OP finds a solution.