Wood burner flue TIPS

Cliecost

Hi,

I'm going to install a wood burner into a disused chimney in my lounge.

The whole chimney above the lounge part has been removed so my plan is to knock into the chimney, clean it out a bit and put the wood burner in.

I will only be able to run the pipe up the chimney a bit before it will need to go out through the wall up the side of the house.

I have done many things in my house including brickwork, carpentry, plumbing, tiling...ect, all the normal stuff any DIYer has done but nothing like this before.

I read online that if you're competent at DIY then this shouldn't be too hard.
I like to think I am.

Does anyone have any tips? Any suggestions based on your own experiences?

Also, does it have to be double lined flue, even for outside?

Thanks!

Gloomendoom

This might be helpful...

http://www.stovefittersmanual.co.uk/articles/building-regulations-for-wood-burning-stoves/

Cliecost

Gloomendoom wrote: »

This might be helpful...

http://www.stovefittersmanual.co.uk/articles/building-regulations-for-wood-burning-stoves/

I saw that site on Google but I didn't bother with it because I saw pound signs and thought it was a pay site lol

Thank you.

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I'd love to hear if anyone has any experiences they'd like to share...

BuildingFife

I'd advice you get looking at Document J of building regulations, a wood burner should never be a DIY installation, afterall, you could end up with your house going on fire.

Simple things like not realising wooden floors under your hearth etc. I have lifted a hearth or 2 where the floor boards & joists underneath have been singed & pretty damn close to going on fire.

muckybutt

Providing you readup on the regs and do a proper job taking the time to get it right then you can do a self install, you will need building regs to sign it off as safe though which your local council can do for you.

I take it by your initial quote the chimney breast has been removed upstairs ?

That being the case then yes you do need a twin wall liner, you will need to go out the top of your stove with vit enamel stove pipe 45 deg bend in that (with a sweep access) that then goes to the wall, connect onto the twin wall as it goes through the wall. When it comes out the other side you will require a y connector on it so that the flue goes upwards and downwards, the downwards section needs a short piece on there with a cap on the bottom that is removable.
As you go up you may need to off set the flue to keep it away from your soffit.

I wouldn't do a self install even though I'm a chimney sweep, IMHO leave it to the pro's - I see so many self installs that are down right dangerous and I have often walked away from sweeping them as well as giving the customer a dressing down.

End of the day though with stoves you can do what you want.

somethingcorporate

Have a google, quite a few examples of people getting carbon monoxide poisoning (and dying) from poor installations.

Some things are worth paying the experts to do, this I would suggest would be one of them.

Melaniep101

Deffo get the professionals in to do this, not worth risking doing it yourself IMHO.

Kiran

It is defintely possible to do the job yourself however you need to know what you are doing. Read up on the subject before you decide to do it yourself. If you do decide to DIY then call building control before you start and ask them what points they want to inspect. With regards constructional heaths and modern stoves, thise which produce less than 100 degrees C out of the bottom have had the regs relaxed and now only require a 12mm hearth instead of the 125mm. Before self installing you need part J AND the installation manual from the stove manufacturer.

Cliecost

Kiran wrote: »

It is defintely possible to do the job yourself however you need to know what you are doing. Read up on the subject before you decide to do it yourself. If you do decide to DIY then call building control before you start and ask them what points they want to inspect. With regards constructional heaths and modern stoves, thise which produce less than 100 degrees C out of the bottom have had the regs relaxed and now only require a 12mm hearth instead of the 125mm. Before self installing you need part J AND the installation manual from the stove manufacturer.

I read this too. Some even have a hearth, carpet then glass because the regs allow it.

Cliecost

muckybutt wrote: »

Providing you readup on the regs and do a proper job taking the time to get it right then you can do a self install, you will need building regs to sign it off as safe though which your local council can do for you.

I take it by your initial quote the chimney breast has been removed upstairs ?

That being the case then yes you do need a twin wall liner, you will need to go out the top of your stove with vit enamel stove pipe 45 deg bend in that (with a sweep access) that then goes to the wall, connect onto the twin wall as it goes through the wall. When it comes out the other side you will require a y connector on it so that the flue goes upwards and downwards, the downwards section needs a short piece on there with a cap on the bottom that is removable.
As you go up you may need to off set the flue to keep it away from your soffit.

I wouldn't do a self install even though I'm a chimney sweep, IMHO leave it to the pro's - I see so many self installs that are down right dangerous and I have often walked away from sweeping them as well as giving the customer a dressing down.

End of the day though with stoves you can do what you want.

muckybutt wrote: »

Providing you readup on the regs and do a proper job taking the time to get it right then you can do a self install, you will need building regs to sign it off as safe though which your local council can do for you.

I take it by your initial quote the chimney breast has been removed upstairs ?

That being the case then yes you do need a twin wall liner, you will need to go out the top of your stove with vit enamel stove pipe 45 deg bend in that (with a sweep access) that then goes to the wall, connect onto the twin wall as it goes through the wall. When it comes out the other side you will require a y connector on it so that the flue goes upwards and downwards, the downwards section needs a short piece on there with a cap on the bottom that is removable.
As you go up you may need to off set the flue to keep it away from your soffit.

I wouldn't do a self install even though I'm a chimney sweep, IMHO leave it to the pro's - I see so many self installs that are down right dangerous and I have often walked away from sweeping them as well as giving the customer a dressing down.

End of the day though with stoves you can do what you want.

muckybutt wrote: »

Providing you readup on the regs and do a proper job taking the time to get it right then you can do a self install, you will need building regs to sign it off as safe though which your local council can do for you.

I take it by your initial quote the chimney breast has been removed upstairs ?

That being the case then yes you do need a twin wall liner, you will need to go out the top of your stove with vit enamel stove pipe 45 deg bend in that (with a sweep access) that then goes to the wall, connect onto the twin wall as it goes through the wall. When it comes out the other side you will require a y connector on it so that the flue goes upwards and downwards, the downwards section needs a short piece on there with a cap on the bottom that is removable.
As you go up you may need to off set the flue to keep it away from your soffit.

I wouldn't do a self install even though I'm a chimney sweep, IMHO leave it to the pro's - I see so many self installs that are down right dangerous and I have often walked away from sweeping them as well as giving the customer a dressing down.

End of the day though with stoves you can do what you want.

BuildingFife wrote: »

I'd advice you get looking at Document J of building regulations, a wood burner should never be a DIY installation, afterall, you could end up with your house going on fire.

Simple things like not realising wooden floors under your hearth etc. I have lifted a hearth or 2 where the floor boards & joists underneath have been singed & pretty damn close to going on fire.

Melaniep101 wrote: »

Deffo get the professionals in to do this, not worth risking doing it yourself IMHO.

I didn't come on here asking 'can anyone tell me to get a professional in'

I know what I'm doing, I'm not some odd-job man, I've done similar things before and certainly things that could cause more damage if went wrong.

Only an idiot would go into this sort of thing without reading the regs, getting advice and knowing that you need building control.

Obviously I am going to get a carbon monoxide detector for the room....who wouldn't?!

tiggerbodhi

Have fitted two log burners myself, lining a chimney each time, very straight forward DIY stuff, read Part J and the installation manual and you should be fine, tips....

Check the prevailing wind direction over your roof so that the smoke will blow away and not down the flue or into windows etc.

Buy a chainsaw, making your own logs from "windfall" is half the fun and will save you fortune in logs!

The outside flue will probably need to be double skinned to keep the smoke "hot" so it rises nicely when exiting and helps avoid tar deposits inside the flue.

oh and if you cook chestnuts on the top of it pierce them first, when they explode if you don't they scare the bejesus out of you and the dog!