Vinyl wrapped kitchen doors 'bubbling' ??

moneyistooshorttomention

Limed oak or maple sounds about my taste.

Am starting to feel a bit panicked about whether I'm going to be able to find a firm round here ("national" or otherwise) that will do a complete kitchen package for me - through from ripping out and disposing of old kitchen to putting in/connecting new (all wood) kitchen at a remotely reasonable price - or indeed any price at all.

Not too much to ask for I think:
- all wood
- a complete package.

How easy (or otherwise) is it these days to find showrooms selling wood kitchens in your experience? What "nationals" (if any) did you find stocking wood kitchens?

Davesnave

Sorry, it was mainly local independent firms, Ashgrove in Crediton being the largest, + Howdens (National) for design ideas and a feel for prices through our tame carpenter & joiner....who really didn't want the job.

In the end we went with Ashgrove, who were very good at the fitting bit.

Furts

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Limed oak or maple sounds about my taste.

Am starting to feel a bit panicked about whether I'm going to be able to find a firm round here ("national" or otherwise) that will do a complete kitchen package for me - through from ripping out and disposing of old kitchen to putting in/connecting new (all wood) kitchen at a remotely reasonable price - or indeed any price at all.

Not too much to ask for I think:
- all wood
- a complete package.

How easy (or otherwise) is it these days to find showrooms selling wood kitchens in your experience? What "nationals" (if any) did you find stocking wood kitchens?

Like most folks my carcasses are chipboard - normal Egger Board. It is cheap and does the job, and should last years and years. The pelmets, cornice, and all door and drawer fronts came from Marpatt. All this is solid oak, so the kitchen appears much as a solid wood kitchen should appear. I am happy with the Marpatt items regarding quality, finish and so on. Perhaps a name and range you should check out?

moneyistooshorttomention

Furts wrote: »

Like most folks my carcasses are chipboard - normal Egger Board. It is cheap and does the job, and should last years and years. The pelmets, cornice, and all door and drawer fronts came from Marpatt. All this is solid oak, so the kitchen appears much as a solid wood kitchen should appear. I am happy with the Marpatt items regarding quality, finish and so on. Perhaps a name and range you should check out?

Thanks - I'll go and have a google of that.

Right now - I'm tossing up between the best of the "sheds" locally (ie Magnet) - as I think some of their kitchen doors are "real" - rather than this stick-on fablon stuff in effect and think their most expensive range might have some suitable (though not quite the style I have in mind:(). The other option being a quirky little typical West Walian type firm that handmake - and yep...they are quirky:rotfl:. This is an area that does quirky well - all the aging hippies that move here:rotfl:. So I'll throw checking out Marpatt items into the mix.

That gives me 3 options - assuming I can find somewhere suitable to source Marpatt items and someone to fix it. Today's googling consisted of checking out a local well-established firm here that had me killing myself laughing at how badly-done/old-fashioned the photos are of kitchens they've done for customers locally.:rotfl:

I'm very conscious that I'm in my 60s now - but still far from financially straight (so this has to be the last spending I do ever on a kitchen - apart from repainting the walls once or twice and swopping the floor covering once basically) and that many British people are in pretty dire health come their 70s (fingers crossed that won't include me personally), so I'm putting in the "energy" now (while I know I have it) to get me sorted out once and for all.

Off to look at Marpatt then...:)

jellie

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Whatever I get has to be minimum possible maintenance - either housework wise or "maintenance" wise - as I loathe both and so I'm very very "time and motion" conscious about how I want things to be. I know myself well enough to know that if something represents more than absolute minimum of effort to keep up - I'll just shrug and not bother

If you hate cleaning that much, I wouldn't get Shaker style doors. They provide lots of surfaces/corners for dust & grease to stick to.

moneyistooshorttomention

I've been checking out and there are various different styles all marketed as "Shaker". Certainly some of them have "fancy bits detailing" and that rather goes away from what I feel is Shaker style.

I'm thinking of the absolute plainest possible - just a plain wide "border" of wood around plain centre panel.

Part of the kitchen cleaning problems with last kitchen and existing kitchen are they are both 1980s style. I chose the first one (well it was 1980s then....) and all the curvy bits and edging type bits and fancy doorknob do get "clogged up" I know.

Plainest possible version of Shaker style = dirt/water might roll down onto top "border", thence to centre panel, thence to bottom "border" and it's just a couple of straight edges easily wiped along.

I know those gloss doors currently fashionable are plainer still - but I don't like them and think they will look distinctly dated in a few years time.

marigold_lady

We purchased a high gloss 'vinyl wrapped' kitchen from B & Q in mid 2006 - not that expensive but neverthless approaching £6k. One of the cabinet doors began to peel away from the carcass within a couple of years and B & Q gave us a replacement door but refused to fit it. We had to pay a fitter to do this.
Now we discover that much of the vinyl covering is peeling away from the carcasses - each day seems to bring a new discovery. This kitchen was guaranteed for 10 years and we are a few months outside the guarantee. B & Q have been notified of the failure of the vinyl wrapped doors but say they cannot entertain any complaint because of the lapse of the guarantee. We told them this was not good enough because clearly the product is not fit for purpose and we quoted the Sale of Goods Act etc. It is obvious from other postings (and not just on this site) that these vinyl wrapped doors do have this design fault. B& Q are now going to write a letter confirming that they will not entertain the complaint but we think this is unacceptable and any advice as to what we should do next is appreciated. B & Q no longer supply these vinyl wrapped doors. Not surprising!

Furts

marigold_lady wrote: »

We purchased a high gloss 'vinyl wrapped' kitchen from B & Q in mid 2006 - not that expensive but neverthless approaching £6k. One of the cabinet doors began to peel away from the carcass within a couple of years and B & Q gave us a replacement door but refused to fit it. We had to pay a fitter to do this.
Now we discover that much of the vinyl covering is peeling away from the carcasses - each day seems to bring a new discovery. This kitchen was guaranteed for 10 years and we are a few months outside the guarantee. B & Q have been notified of the failure of the vinyl wrapped doors but say they cannot entertain any complaint because of the lapse of the guarantee. We told them this was not good enough because clearly the product is not fit for purpose and we quoted the Sale of Goods Act etc. It is obvious from other postings (and not just on this site) that these vinyl wrapped doors do have this design fault. B& Q are now going to write a letter confirming that they will not entertain the complaint but we think this is unacceptable and any advice as to what we should do next is appreciated. B & Q no longer supply these vinyl wrapped doors. Not surprising!

Vinyl wrap doors are the cheapest conceivable door one can purchase. You have achieved ten years from them which is very good going. If I were B&Q I would not entertain your complaint. Be realistic here - you chose to avoid a timber frame door, or a laminate door, or a solid timber door. Basically you made a conscious decision to avoid anything good, or anything durable. I respect that decision but you cannot now complain about this!

Look at this by striking an analogy with a car. If you spent £6000 on the cheapest new car you could find would you complain after ten years if the paint finish was showing signs of wear and tear? Or would you say I have done well?

Davesnave

marigold_lady wrote: »

B& Q are now going to write a letter confirming that they will not entertain the complaint but we think this is unacceptable and any advice as to what we should do next is appreciated.

The short answer is that you should be realistic about the remote chance of any redress.

The units are out of guarantee and no longer available, so why do you think the guarantee should be honoured and what with? There will now be no matching doors available.

With any sort of compensation, the use you've had from the goods, will be taken into account. After 10 years of use, a cheap kitchen or bedroom suite is worth next to nothing.

If the carcasses are OK, your best bet might be to buy replacement doors from a company that specialises in this.

redginger44

I too would be interested in this as we originally had our kitchen fitted in 2013 and by 2014 all of the doors had split and have been replaced - however now one of the end panels is going again can anybody advise where I stand with this please ?