Question time next week

ILW

When I left school in 1974 only very rich or very clever kids went off to university. Different times.

grizzly1911

BobQ wrote: »

Possibly, but I think its more to do with people being more ambitious and materialistic than in those days, so consciously focus on themselves.

With 40% of them getting degrees It is not surprising. More so when there aren't 40% of jobs actually needing a degree to undertake them. Whether it is classed as a requirement is a different matter.

If we encourage them to do a degree it is no surprise that they aren't willing to start at the bottom of the pile.

grizzly1911

ILW wrote: »

When I left school in 1974 only very rich or very clever kids went off to university. Different times.

There wasn't the need to do so either many businesses and industry were willing to take candidates at 16/18 and train them with a number offering career paths through in work qualification.

In those days a technical apprenticeship was areal training programme, with block results and work placements learning real skills stretching over 6 (?) years. Timed served educated professionals were produced.

Many "bluechips" offered business and management progression alongside professional accreditation often through day release courses.

The public services took in staff and trained them from the ground up. Those achieving professional accreditation progressing into senior positions.

Degrees in themselves will become worth less and less. MBAs, PhDs will become the real must have. What next.

ruggedtoast

This is on NOW!

mayonnaise

ruggedtoast wrote: »

This is on NOW!

Was it any good?

ukcarper

mayonnaise wrote: »

Was it any good?

Not really one Tory and one Labour politician spouting the party line one LibDem waffling and a few good points made by both sides of audience.

Loughton_Monkey

ukcarper wrote: »

Not really one Tory and one Labour politician spouting the party line one LibDem waffling and a few good points made by both sides of audience.

Yes, rather dissapointing. Two panel members missing owing to transport problems.....

It finished with a rather crass (but sadly frequent and typical) comment by an 'oldie'. Something along the lines of "It's the way things are structured. If you pay someone £4 million a year to push a mouse round the desk, well give him £100,000 and give the rest to these young people and give them jobs, I'm sure we'll all benefit...."

It's a variation of Labour's mantra of "...what we should be doing is taxing bankers' bonuses and using it to create jobs...."

Leaving aside the fact that this mythical tax has been spent thirty times over by Labour on jobs, nurses, schools, energy subsidies, doctors, houses, affordable house, social houses, policemen etc. I simply don't understand governments 'creating' jobs by giving or spending money on anything. Unless it's investing in something that helps private enterprise.

I loved the rather weird looking girl who asserted that house prices are simply too high, and that she wouldn't buy. Dimblebore got her to clarify that she meant 'couldn't' buy but came back with her assertion that she would never buy out of choice. She is clearly from the Devon School of Economics and Sophistry.....

ukcarper

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

Yes, rather dissapointing. Two panel members missing owing to transport problems.....

It finished with a rather crass (but sadly frequent and typical) comment by an 'oldie'. Something along the lines of "It's the way things are structured. If you pay someone £4 million a year to push a mouse round the desk, well give him £100,000 and give the rest to these young people and give them jobs, I'm sure we'll all benefit...."

It's a variation of Labour's mantra of "...what we should be doing is taxing bankers' bonuses and using it to create jobs...."

Leaving aside the fact that this mythical tax has been spent thirty times over by Labour on jobs, nurses, schools, energy subsidies, doctors, houses, affordable house, social houses, policemen etc. I simply don't understand governments 'creating' jobs by giving or spending money on anything. Unless it's investing in something that helps private enterprise.

I loved the rather weird looking girl who asserted that house prices are simply too high, and that she wouldn't buy. Dimblebore got her to clarify that she meant 'couldn't' buy but came back with her assertion that she would never buy out of choice. She is clearly from the Devon School of Economics and Sophistry.....

Bit like tory banging on about apprenticeships and people should be in training or work when there are 1 million unemployed young people and a large number of those that are working are in part time jobs with no prospects.

Fella

People who complain about the lack of jobs should create some.

Of course it's much easier to just moan & expect someone else to do so.

ukcarper

Fella wrote: »

People who complain about the lack of jobs should create some.

Of course it's much easier to just moan & expect someone else to do so.

Very good sound bite Rubbish of course but a good sound bite just the same.