Car accident this morning

Stooby2

fivetide wrote:

Sounds like a cash for crash type scenario

+1 for the above. It fits almost perfectly for a crash for cash. Report it to the police and make sure that your insurance company are aware, as in all likeliehood, they're about to get a claim for damage and injuries, probably for more people than were in the car.

And without wishing to sound too harsh, you should be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear, and you do share a portion of the blame for this crash.

martinsurrey

Stooby2 wrote: »

+1 for the above. It fits almost perfectly for a crash for cash. Report it to the police and make sure that your insurance company are aware, as in all likeliehood, they're about to get a claim for damage and injuries, probably for more people than were in the car.

And without wishing to sound too harsh, you should be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear, and you do share a portion of the blame for this crash.

not a portion of the blame, the entire blame for his involvement in the crash.

no one has questioned if the first car was even hit... maybe the van confused his hard breaking and the OP smashing into the back of him for him hitting the car in front.

This first car might have not even noticed the cars piling up behind them,in which case why would they stop.

And even if this 3rd car was fount, the OP would more than likely be liable for all 3 cars, as all the van driver has to say is that the OP pushed them into the car infront and the OP is liable for everything!

Rolandtheroadie

martinsurrey wrote: »

not a portion of the blame, the entire blame for his involvement in the crash.

no one has questioned if the first car was even hit... maybe the van confused his hard breaking and the OP smashing into the back of him for him hitting the car in front.

This first car might have not even noticed the cars piling up behind them,in which case why would they stop.

And even if this 3rd car was fount, the OP would more than likely be liable for all 3 cars, as all the van driver has to say is that the OP pushed them into the car infront and the OP is liable for everything!

My thoughts as well.

The crash for cash scams a non starter as well IMHO as the guy at the front didnt stop.

Probably some poor sod didnt know the road and was just being extra careful/didnt realise he could enter the roundabout without giving way (If I'm interpreting the description properly, I'm thinking it was a lane that entered and exited the roundabout without having to give way i.e seperated by a solid white line from the rest of the lanes)

Just to add OP, it's not a critisism of you. As you've mentioned, accidents happen.

Stooby2

scotsman4t wrote:

The crash for cash scams a non starter as well IMHO as the guy at the front didnt stop.

This is exactly how the scam works. The gangs have two cars, one to cause the the crash and then drive off quick, then the second "innocent" car that reacts to the first and gets hit from behind, and in a place where drivers wouldn't be expecting anything to happen. The unsuspecting motorist then has sympathy with the car driver he hit as he feels they've both been the victim of the car that failed to stop

Then a huge claim for damage and injury comes in.

Have a look on YouTube - there's a couple of classic examples, one off a RoadHawk camera system that shows it clearly.

prowla

I know someone who was caught by that...

Car 1 driving along approaching a junction.
Car 2 driving behind it.
Car 3 behind that.

Car 1 brakes hard so Car 2 has to.
Car 3 runs into the back of Car 2.
Car 1 scarpers.
Car 2 doesn't know who Car 1 was.
Car 2 claims against Car 3.
Car 3 pays out.
Car 2 and Car 1 meet up and share the profits.

Jamie_Carter

Building_Surveyor wrote: »

ThAts why I came on here to ask for clarification. The additional driver was a witness just as much as we were. I agree I'm probably not entirely faultless, accidents happen, albeit this is my first one after many years of driving. I am just surprised someone would drive off if they weren't at fault, not even to check if someone was injured.

Some people drive around oblivious to anything that happens around them. An elderly guy in a Volvo once reversed into me in a car park, and then started to drive off. So I ran after him and knocked on his window until he stopped. I think he genuinely didn't realise he had hit my car. So in your case, if it was only a slight nudge, then the driver of the car may just be oblivious.