COMPLAINT - Estate agents entering our house without our permission

ognum

allthingsmustpass wrote: »

Its a response to a 'no it isn't' post which contains no rationale for taking that position which relates to the OPs issue.

It also reminds us of the people renters typically have to deal with. Be sure to take anything landlords or agents say with a pinch of salt regarding your property rights since they did not get into their position by having any aptitude for this field or knowledge related to it, and of course they will have their own bias.

Housing is a fundamental need and it should never have been placed in the hands of those that didn't earn the right to be in a position where they can harass and intimidate decent people in their homes.

Be wary of them, distrust them, check on anything they say. I recommend referring to the 'shelter' charity website and where appropriate assert your rights properly and firmly.

Yet again a sad generalised post, that does not take into account many LLs who work hard to ensure the people who's homes they own are kept safe, warm and secure.

There are many LLs like this and there are some who are rubbish and shouldn't be LLs but don't tar all with the same brush.

Kynthia

allthingsmustpass wrote: »

Its a response to a 'no it isn't' post which contains no rationale for taking that position which relates to the OPs issue.

It also reminds us of the people renters typically have to deal with. Be sure to take anything landlords or agents say with a pinch of salt regarding your property rights since they did not get into their position by having any aptitude for this field or knowledge related to it, and of course they will have their own bias.

Housing is a fundamental need and it should never have been placed in the hands of those that didn't earn the right to be in a position where they can harass and intimidate decent people in their homes.

Be wary of them, distrust them, check on anything they say. I recommend referring to the 'shelter' charity website and where appropriate assert your rights properly and firmly.

So basically you're reading an awful lot into a three word response from one poster about the entire rental market, how awful landlords and agents are and how badly tenants are treated, rather than just assuming they felt you made a factually incorrect statement? At least these apparent three words (perhaps you could quote them next time as I can't even easily find them) were in direct response to something you wrote whereas your post is some generalised, baseless vent that doesn't address the OP's issue or directly respond to a post. Maybe it would be more suited to the debate forum.

Norman_Castle

This is rather indicative of the sad situation many younger people find themselves in. Being forced to rent from older people who are incompetent and arrogant, and did nothing more than be born at a time when housing was affordable.

A terrible consequence of the bubble is this misallocation of housing wealth. Gifted to the boomers and stolen from those younger. Now the smarter degree educated harder working younger people are forced to deal with these older uneducated self important mis-informed ignorant and arrogant old people in order to have something as fundamental as housing.

It is a terrible shame.

Its a self indulgent, self important rant. The arrogance of youth.

benson1980

allthingsmustpass wrote: »

It is illegal to enter someones home without their permission. Unlawful entry. The clue is in the name.

For the duration of a tenancy the property is the tenants home.

The landlord is a caretaker for the banks property and ought not to let their misplaced self importance confuse them into breaking the law.

So are you saying that this 'unlawful entry' is a criminal offence that the police should deal with?

If so can you direct me to the offence wording please- which refers to the offence of unlawful entry

Thanks

Road_Hog

allthingsmustpass wrote: »

This is rather indicative of the sad situation many younger people find themselves in. Being forced to rent from older people who are incompetent and arrogant, and did nothing more than be born at a time when housing was affordable.

A terrible consequence of the bubble is this misallocation of housing wealth. Gifted to the boomers and stolen from those younger. Now the smarter degree educated harder working younger people are forced to deal with these older uneducated self important mis-informed ignorant and arrogant old people in order to have something as fundamental as housing.

It is a terrible shame.

Now witness the further displays of arrogance and ignorance in the responses to this post as they proclaim how they had it just as hard or harder (that one is hilarious) and its the youngs fault for buying an iPhone. Oh and also they earned all they have, that ones fantastic.

Shameful.

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I left home at the age of 16, with nothing but fluff in my pocket. My father uttered the words, whilst you live under our roof, blah blah, and if you don't like it, you can leave.

Leave I did and slept rough for a bit. I worked my way up from carp jobs, from shop work, to warehouse, stores and despatch riding. I finally managed to get a job as area manager for a top 50 international company.

I've worked bloody hard and have paid two mortgages at a time to keep one of my rental properties.

I didn't have the luxury of a uni education and I've earnt every penny that I own. I stole nothing from anybody and I wasn't gifted anything. I came from a generation that that worked hard for a living.

Smarter degree educated? You're having a larf, most youngsters with a degree, couldn't tell their left hand from their right. Who's so smart now, those that spend their time in higher education for a media studies degree or those that crack on with work and buy capital goods, such as houses?

SerialRenter

Road_Hog wrote: »

Smarter degree educated? You're having a larf, most youngsters with a degree, couldn't tell their left hand from their right. Who's so smart now, those that spend their time in higher education for a media studies degree or those that crack on with work and buy capital goods, such as houses?

Taking offence to the older generation being stereotyped then as a retort stereotype the whole younger generation. Nice one.

<- Engineering graduate in a good engineering job, been saving my whole life and yet with no chance of affording housing any time soon.

lord_tyrannus

Letting Agents are the new bottom feeders of the economy they have little grasp of the law or customer service which shows because anyone can set themselves up as a Letting Agent

I was having a similar problem with mine until he realised the landlord didn't have a set of keys so he had to be nice to me to gain access for viewings

Road_Hog

SerialRenter wrote: »

<- Engineering graduate in a good engineering job, been saving my whole life and yet with no chance of affording housing any time soon.

So how comes you can't buy a house? If you're in a good engineering job, you should be able to buy a home. Have you saved a deposit, have you accepted that you may need to buy in a cheaper place?

Or do you expect to roll into a 5 bedroomed property in the nice part of town that you grew up in? I'd liked to have bought a property in Twickenham where my parents live, unfortunately in the close that they live, it's a seven figure property price. So I had to go and buy in the cheaper areas and work my way up.

SerialRenter

Road_Hog wrote: »

So how comes you can't buy a house? If you're in a good engineering job, you should be able to buy a home. Have you saved a deposit, have you accepted that you may need to buy in a cheaper place?

Or do you expect to roll into a 5 bedroomed property in the nice part of town that you grew up in? I'd liked to have bought a property in Twickenham where my parents live, unfortunately in the close that they live, it's a seven figure property price. So I had to go and buy in the cheaper areas and work my way up.

I expect to work hard for a long time yet to afford a 1 bedroom flat, i have no illusions that a house will come quickly or be particularly grand.

I'm in Surrey, expensive with a few affordable areas scattered around. I'm very far away from where I grew up (a lot cheaper there!), moved here for the job.
I certainly am saving for a deposit, half my monthly earnings go to that, the other goes to extortionate rent and costs of living, leaving very little for enjoyment, so we make do with free things such as walks through the country side, which is rather nice in Surrey.

Personally I'd rather save at least 20% before I buy, which works out as a lot of money around here for someone who's only been out of higher education for a few years. I estimate it'll take me at least another 5 years if I keep saving most of my earnings and living frugally.

The simple fact of the matter is that prices in real terms adjusted for inflation are significantly higher than they were 10-20 years ago. Even if interest rates are lower, that's still a huge amount of debt and of course there is no guarantee they'll remain low.

Tl:dr its not a great time to be a first time buyer even for sensible money aware people.

allthingsmustpass

SerialRenter wrote: »

The simple fact of the matter is that prices in real terms adjusted for inflation are significantly higher than they were 10-20 years ago. Even if interest rates are lower, that's still a huge amount of debt and of course there is no guarantee they'll remain low.

Tl:dr its not a great time to be a first time buyer even for sensible money aware people.

You waste your breath, it's too complicated for them, and road hog proves my point for me. "How comes you cant afford a house then". Such an intellectual giant born much later wouldn't stand a chance.

Its been blind luck for the likes of them and deep down they know it. That's why they get so upset when you point it out to them.