Son returning home

Mint1955

My stepson has got himself in a mess and has had to give up his flat as he gave notice in a job that he said was making him ill!

Background...
We were guarantors of flat so it was renewal time and we found out he was on a final warning at work as he has had 3 months off work since new year.

Recurrent sore throats and general sickness never came to anything big health wise but in the end it was I think just him making himself ill through hating the job. Call centre work on high targets and over the two years he has been there its just got worse and worse.

So flat and job both finish this week and he moves back home.

Not happy with this but giving him a chance to sort himself out. He already seems a lot more at ease than he has for the past year.

My question is does he have to sign on or anything for NI stamp even though we assume he will not get any handouts while he is living with us and looking for work?

Please don't slam me for this as its on top of a load of other bad times this year I just need to know what legally he is supposed to do dwp wise.

cr1mson

Did he finish the job or did his employers?

dancingfairy

There's 2 types of jobseekers. The first is based on ni contributions so if he paid enough over the last 2 years then he will qualify for 6 months worth of this type of jobseekers. After that (or if he didn't have enough ni) it will be assessed on household income I think (the fact he is living with you I think means he won't get any money but can still sign on to claim stamps).
The waters are of course slightly muddied by the fact that he has left his job and he may receive a sanction for this (not too sure how long the sanction would be though). I'm not sure if you receive a sanction whether you still get ni credits or not?
Anyway it will all come out in the wash when he applies for jobseekers, which he should do.
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dandelionclock30

He can make a claim for JSA now but may be sanctioned for a while. However it is upto the Jobcentre regarding how long this is for and there appears to be no hard and fast rules.

His sanction will be from when he makes the claim so its in his interest to claim asap. I hope he gets something better sorted out soon.

Mint1955

Thank you I thought he should at least get himself in the system then the rest will work itself through.

Yes he gave up the job before he was sacked. Sadly he just couldn't see the wood from the trees and let it all get on top of him.

I can only hope he has learned a lesson and you can be sure I won't be making him too comfortable!!

gay_guy

Mint1955 wrote: »

Thank you I thought he should at least get himself in the system then the rest will work itself through.

Yes he gave up the job before he was sacked. Sadly he just couldn't see the wood from the trees and let it all get on top of him.

I can only hope he has learned a lesson and you can be sure I won't be making him too comfortable!!

Well then he will be sanctioned if he claims JSA as he left the job voluntarily, if he got sacked then that would be another story but it seems he will be sanctioned am afraid

Hope everything works out for your stepson

Forgot to mention, why did he have to give up he's flat? He could have still claimed housing benefit on nil income.

Prothet_of_Doom

More importantly, how do you give him back his self estime and his spark and light a fire in him, that makes this the start of something good. ????? It's an opportunity for him to change his life.

Mint1955

As a single guy under 23 he wouldn't get any housing benefits etc as we live in the same town and As we are the guarantors we would be expected to pay the rent. With no money coming in the flat had to go.

Mint1955

Prophet of doom that's my big worry he has never really had any great ambition (except to be a rock star) and doesn't seem to get career or drive etc. he has lots of big ideas but no idea that you have to work to get there its not handed to you.

When_the_going_gets_tough

Just to point out that he will be entitled to sign for JSA even though he is living with you as he is regarded as a separate household by DWP. He may well be sanctioned, but it is worth signing on anyway for NI credits, and also for JSA once the sanction regime has finished. Certain categories of claimants are also entitled to hardship payments whilst sanctioned - although I am not sure if your step son would be. Would it also be worth getting him checked out by the GP - if this has not already been done to make sure there are no underlying health issues. It is hard for young people and not everyone is successful at their first attempt at leaving home. Maybe he needs to regroup, think about more training or education or have some careers advice also. Good luck!

Mint1955

Thanks for the replies. We have done the move and I have done so much cleaning to try and get his deposit back and washing everything in sight as everything smelt musty. We have talked things through with him both in regards to how far he had gone down hill (mess in flat and personal stuff re hygiene, job etc ) and basic expectations ongoing. He looks so much better clean, fed and is talking more and trying very hard to get straight with paperwork etc. he has called the job centre and sees them on Monday. He has also been out with cv and managed to get a interview for some part time bar work.