Pulling on lead

catkins

Own_My_Own wrote: »

I am walking her on the harness.

So can you all please stop replying about the collar. She needed a collar to put her name tag on. Yes she is chipped.
I walked her once on the collar and it didn't help so we are back to the harness.
I asked what would help and nearly everyone is ignoring that question and going on about the collar as through I am trying to harm her.

Thank you to the posters who offered helpful advice.

I'm sorry but to me all the posters offered advice and I think you are being too sensitive. I mentioned the collar because people do walk dogs who pull on collars and it can cause bad damage to a dog's throat.

Some people have advised head collars and myself and another post a harness with a front ring on the chest and a ring on the back used with a double ended lead. This worked for me and I have recommended it to a lot of people and it has worked.

Also people have suggested the keep stopping when the dog pulls although that never worked for me

catkins

spacey2012 wrote: »

Some gun dogs will never stop pulling, springer spaniels are the bench mark.
Chokers cause fits, by cutting oxygen to the brain, so back on the harness.

However try my method.
You need to change not the dog.
Set off and when the dog pulls have a penalty timer of say a minute, make the dog sit and wait then set off again, remember the dog wants to get where it is going not you.
If you only make the first lampost for the first few walks, tough.
When the dog walks without pulling, set off again, as soon as it pulls penalty time, sit down doggy and wait..
They soon learn they get where they want to go by not pulling instead of sitting on the pavement.
Unless it's a springer, they are just nuts.

That method never worked for me. I tried it for quite a while and it just made walks frustrating for me and the dog. Much easier and quicker to buy a front and chest ring harness with double ended lead. That worked immediately

pawsies

I would teach her a heel command in the house. Once she is consistently heeling in the house then introduce the command 'heel'. Treat her when she does. Then go in the garden and teach her the heel. There are more distractions so you will need to watch her closely and guide her to position if she looks like she is about to pull.
Then go down the road continuing with this.
Dogs prefer to know what to do rather than what not to do.
She can go without walks for a short time if you are training her- that will tire her out.

I would also use a harness and double ended lead- one end attached to the collar but only as a steering wheel to guide her where to go.

lemonslice

I have no advice, i am the owner of a almost 2 year old yellow lab who pulls me off my feet at some speed, we have tried harnesses, -she would walk on her two back legs like a human, the gentle leader & the halti, all which she hated & would dive at my legs constantly or the grass to try & rub it off,
shes hurt me numerous times & most walks end in my tears,
stupid i know,
its me not the dog who has to change, but i dont even have the strength to do the stop & start as her pulling is off the scale!

see anyone clinging on to a passing lampost to stay upright -its me!

and when shes in the home, gentlest most patient loving dog ever.
no idea!

hmc

Springer owner here so no use hahaha, trainer sold us a head collar for when son walks him and it works instantly but he does hate it
We have a harness if I pavement walk which is ok but not great
But I'm a woods walker lol so it's in boot of car, to woods and loose lol I carry a slip lead

aileth

The method we used was similar to the stopping and waiting if they pulled, but when we first got our pup there was no chance he would stop and wait, so we'd leave the house, as soon as he pulled, we turned around and went back inside, so basically 'well if you're going to do that, we're not going anyway.'

Repeated it getting further distances down the road and he got the idea pretty quickly, and now is a delight.

All dogs are different though, so make sure to try lots of different options.

catkins

hmc wrote: »

Springer owner here so no use hahaha, trainer sold us a head collar for when son walks him and it works instantly but he does hate it
We have a harness if I pavement walk which is ok but not great
But I'm a woods walker lol so it's in boot of car, to woods and loose lol I carry a slip lead

I wouldn't make a dog wear a head collar if he hated it.

Have you tried a double ended lead with a harness with a front ring and a ring on the dog's back?

Caroline_a

lemonslice wrote: »

I have no advice, i am the owner of a almost 2 year old yellow lab who pulls me off my feet at some speed, we have tried harnesses, -she would walk on her two back legs like a human, the gentle leader & the halti, all which she hated & would dive at my legs constantly or the grass to try & rub it off,
shes hurt me numerous times & most walks end in my tears,
stupid i know,
its me not the dog who has to change, but i dont even have the strength to do the stop & start as her pulling is off the scale!

see anyone clinging on to a passing lampost to stay upright -its me!

and when shes in the home, gentlest most patient loving dog ever.
no idea!

Bit of a post hijack here, but you really need to sort this. My friend told me about someone she knows who was pulled under a lorry wheels by a lab a year or so ago - and it was a man, not a woman! Both owner and dog died.

You need to sort out proper training and find something that does work. My dogs didn't really like their Haltis and my Shep actually broke the Canny Collar that I tried, but I've never looked back since I started using the Dogmatic. Yes, my Spinone will try to push his head on the floor every so often, but the design means that it makes no difference at all, and I just keep walking and tell him to hurry up. So with both dogs I have 100kg in one hand, controlled. I've always found that harnesses on larger dogs that pull just build up their chest muscles and give them something to pull against!

Stay safe - your walks will be much more enjoyable when you aren't fighting your dog.

catkins

Caroline_a wrote: »

I've always found that harnesses on larger dogs that pull just build up their chest muscles and give them something to pull against!.

Not the harnesses that have a front ring on the dog's chest and a ring on the dog's back used with a double ended lead. It worked immediately with my fairly large dog and I have recommended them to a few people and they have worked.

Lots of trainers recommend them whereas they don't recommend head collars

Caroline_a

True, although I tried one of these with my GSD when he was a teenage horror and I couldn't hold him and he still pulled... the sod! He just pulled a different way....