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Another ParkingEye Court Defeat

I don't have all the details from the OP yet, but a couple of days ago in Barrow-in-Furness County Court (case no. 3QT52338), Parking Eye's claim was dismissed by the Judge, and £104 costs awarded to the defendant.

I helped with the original defence statement, and Axeman on Pepipoo also got involved with it once the first hearing was adjourned.

Apparently there was an issue with the validity of the landowner contract.

Will post more details when I get them.

I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.
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  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    bargepole wrote: »
    Apparently there was an issue with the validity of the landowner contract.

    You don't say!

    :T
  • halibut2209
    halibut2209 Posts: 4,250 Forumite
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    Hmm, didn't see that case on the Parking Eye website. Can't be real :p
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  • Hmm, didn't see that case on the Parking Eye website. Can't be real :p

    Something fishy there...

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  • hoohoo
    hoohoo Posts: 1,717 Forumite
    So, £104 to defendant
    Plus £15 court fee
    £25 hearing fee
    £300 LPC law fee

    Looks like ParkingEye have got themselves a nice little way of tipping money down the drain.

    PS. I'm not including Rachel's £50 solicitor fee because we all know that the number of £50s she claims equates to a yearly salary of well over £1 million, and had therefore no actual substance
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  • hoohoo wrote: »
    So, £104 to defendant
    Plus £15 court fee
    £25 hearing fee
    £300 LPC law fee

    Looks like ParkingEye have got themselves a nice little way of tipping money down the drain.

    PS. I'm not including Rachel's £50 solicitor fee because we all know that the number of £50s she claims equates to a yearly salary of well over £1 million, and had therefore no actual substance

    You would think that a firm of solicitors as large as LPC Law would ensure that their client had the right to pursue a claim before actually commencing county court action wouldn't you?:rotfl::T
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,436 Forumite
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    You would think that a firm of solicitors as large as LPC Law would ensure that their client had the right to pursue a claim before actually commencing county court action wouldn't you?:rotfl::T

    At £300 a pop I'm not sure they're particularly bothered.

    I presume they 'trust' the professional instruction of their equally legally qualified client - the ever fragrant Rachel :)
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • bargepole
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    You would think that a firm of solicitors as large as LPC Law would ensure that their client had the right to pursue a claim before actually commencing county court action wouldn't you?:rotfl::T
    What happens in practice is that the claim, and all the court bundles, are prepared in-house by PE, and LPC Law are only called in at the last minute if the hearing actually goes ahead - in other words, if the defendant hasn't been scared off by the blizzard of bo11ocks that PE send out to try to justify the unjustifiable.

    At my hearing in Brentford, where the LPC Law guy thought he was representing Private Eye, he was reading the bundle and making notes in the waiting room while we were sitting around before the hearing started.

    At the risk of repeating myself, anyone intending to defend one of these, must pay attention to the 7 Ps - it's an advantage you will have over the other side, make use of it. The defendant in this case clearly did.

    I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.
  • Dave_TH
    Dave_TH Posts: 183 Forumite
    Main point was the contract sent to the defendant was dated Feb 2013 whilst the "offence" was October 2012, so a real own goal by PE (someone will get a kicking for this) in addition

    the witness statement from Paul shrew Brook and it's attached letter of authority was not dated. If it is NOT dated then parking eye did not have authority to manage the car park cause it contravenes section 7.1 of the bras code of practice which clearly states that the parking company must have authority before any management of a car park can commence.

    Again I suspect PE where trying to bluff the defendant, many other holes in the PE submission but the 2 above where tha main ones discussed.

    PE solicitor by all accounts an inexperienced chap who was ripped apart by an experienced judge.

    The success with costs was brilliant.
  • :)I would doubt that LPC are getting £300 for 20 mins in court...but them again we are talking about law firms here!!:)
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    edited 1 November 2013 at 12:21PM
    A win that also lays bare a cornerstone of PE's blizzard is just that bit sweeter too.
    Dave_TH wrote: »
    The witness statement from Paul shrew Brook and it's attached letter of authority was not dated. If it is NOT dated then parking eye did not have authority to manage the car park cause it contravenes section 7.1 of the bras code of practice which clearly states that the parking company must have authority before any management of a car park can commence.
    On dear. Serious breach too, isn't that a 10-pointer? Unfortunately you won't find me holding my breath waiting for the BPA Ltd to do anything too serious. Not unless you consider that a lot of head-shaking, tut-tutting and finger-wagging is the equivalent of public castration with a rusty spoon, that is. Noooo way. You'll find me behind the sofa.

    Why? Well, the Haywards Heath headshed certainly aren't going to bite the hand that has been feeding them richly and if they were to publicly discuss kicking PE in the goolies - what with the POPLA mess developing a substantial head of disgruntled pressure within PPC World - the whole edifice could go with something of a... bang. A la Monsieur Creosote...

    "C'mon. Its just a tiny waafer thin mint... "
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
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