p60 & Pay Slips Not Adding Up

twinkle-star

I know, I know. Hindsight is great! It's just how it was. He was grateful to be given the chance to finish a qualification he'd started years before. I was constantly nagging him about things that weren't right but he's just say that I had no idea what things were like there and he just wanted to keep his head down and get on with it. It's come back to bite us on the a*** now. We live and learn I suppose! Thanks for the advice.

AP007

Just write the letter asking for copies first and or the statement of earnings and while waiting contact the HMRC

good luck

twinkle-star

AP007 wrote: »

Just write the letter asking for copies first and or the statement of earnings and while waiting contact the HMRC

good luck

Thank you, I'll do that.

Savvy_Sue

I'd give the employer a deadline by which you expect to receive the payslips / statement of earnings, but at that point I'd just send copies of both the week 50 payslip and the P60 to HMRC and let them investigate.

twinkle-star

Thanks. Yes that's the plan now. If nothing comes of it then at least we tried. The main thing is that he's out of that place for good now.

Thanks everyone for the help!

chrisbur

The old employer may claim that an over-payment of wages was discovered and that this over-payment was being paid back to them over the last two weeks of the tax year. Would you be able to prove that this was not the case if it was claimed?

twinkle-star

No, we can't prove it due to being paid in cash:(

If the employer isn't forthcoming with the pay slips or a reasonable explanation we are thinking about pursuing them for at least one of the things we can prove, such as the employer not paying for the one day a week that my partner was at college.

Although he did not have a written contract from the employer (which I pestered him about constantly), both parties signed a contract with the college which stated that the employer was obliged to pay for the one day per week spent at college. This would amount to about £4k owed. Coupled with the fact that the employer conducted an unjustified disciplinary procedure of which we also have proof, we would hopefully get somewhere.

We didn't really want to go that far though because the employer is basically a horrible person and the less we have to do with him now the better!

pelirocco

Were the payslips and P60 computer generated , or handwritten ?

I would get HMRC to investigate , The emplers end of year return has to match the P60 , and of course the P60 should match the whole years payslips ...........it wouldnt be unheard of for a company to try and fudge what they owe HMRC

The main reason why we all have to do RTI , and online submissions

twinkle-star

Both are computer generated.

I have a feeling that the final two pay slips of the tax year will answer our questions, which is why the employer did not hand them over at the time. For the week 50 pay slip to say that £400 ish tax was paid, and the P60 to say that it was £300 ish I'd assume that a tax rebate had been issued during week 51 or 52 which had not been given to my partner.

My partner usually got paid for 4 days a week because one day was a college day that they didn't pay him for. One of the employer's tricks if my partner had a day off one week was that he'd be paid £135 instead of the usual £180 with no pay slip given. This wasn't right because he should have paid less tax on such weeks. Instead it looked like they had worked out his day rate as £45 and paid him 3 x £45. By looking at the pay slips either side of the missing one we could see that his pay had been put through officially as normal (£180) despite him only receiving £135.

This is why we assume that they may have received some sort of tax refund on my partner's behalf but not actually passed it on, hence the missing week 51 and 52 pay slips and the discrepancies on the P60 compared to his week 50 pay slip. The P60 could well match the figures on the final pay slip of the year but there would have to be a reason for that, and seeing as the employer at no point mentioned anything about it we're assuming they've been up to something dodgy again.

twinkle-star

Oh, I forgot to mention that the employer used an accountant too. The employer tried to blame the discrepancies I mentioned above re the days off on the accountant initially until, when confronted, they finally admitted it was just easier to put the pay through 'the books' as normal and deduct the money for the day off themselves. It may have been easier for them but each time they did that my partner still ended up paying the same tax when working a 3 day week as when he worked a 4 day week.