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  • Umkomaas wrote: »
    That may or may not be the case, but it won't stop more and more paperwork coming through the post which might ultimately end up with court papers.

    Continue to ignore these and they will end in a CCJ, which could see bailiffs clamping any car at the house and it all becoming very unpleasant, which is not what anyone would want for someone who has recently lost her husband.

    Now it might be 'amusing' to some to see a PPC dig themselves into a deep hole chasing a dead person and setting bailiffs loose on them, but, for the people directly involved, not something they need to be exposing themselves to.

    My advice is to write to the PPC informing them of your father's death (and while it goes against my natural instinct, send them a copy of the death certificate) and that should be the end of that.

    I'm certain that no PPC in their right mind would continue to pursue ...... but, hold on!

    In all seriousness I'd write to them and knock this on the head, your mother shouldn't have to deal with this stuff any longer.

    So please tell me;

    A parking company applies to the court for a ccj against a deceased person. The claim is upheld because the deceased person does not contest the claim. How then do the bailiffs enforce this judgement.

    Your post is pure scaremongering.

    All the OP has to do is wait until she gets Genuine court papers in her deceased fathers name and fill in the appropriate response.
  • Hovite_2
    Hovite_2 Posts: 749 Forumite
    happybiker wrote: »
    So please tell me;

    A parking company applies to the court for a ccj against a deceased person. The claim is upheld because the deceased person does not contest the claim. How then do the bailiffs enforce this judgement.

    Your post is pure scaremongering.

    All the OP has to do is wait until she gets Genuine court papers in her deceased fathers name and fill in the appropriate response.

    Which is reasonable advice BUT we need to know who the current RK is before it's valid.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,343 Forumite
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    happybiker wrote: »
    So please tell me;

    A parking company applies to the court for a ccj against a deceased person. The claim is upheld because the deceased person does not contest the claim. How then do the bailiffs enforce this judgement.

    Your post is pure scaremongering.

    All the OP has to do is wait until she gets Genuine court papers in her deceased fathers name and fill in the appropriate response.

    How about default judgment in favour of the claimant, not paid in 28 days, CCJ attached, claimant seeks court order for bailiff recovery action, bailiff turns up.

    Clearly worst case scenario (not scaremongering - I don't do that, I try to help people) but every step along this path is avoidable hassle. One letter with certified death certificate should be the end of it.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
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    Hovite wrote: »
    Which is reasonable advice BUT we need to know who the current RK is before it's valid.

    Yes we do as it's in the first post, the letter was addressed to the deceased person, so logically unless there has been contact he must have been the RK at that time.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    Stroma wrote: »
    I have actually made a complaint on the post.

    Ditto here.
  • just to update the position.
    1, the car was returned to motability in june as was his blue badge rtned.
    i can't see how my mother is responsible for his parking, she can't drive. and if people turn up at the door, they have only a few plant pots to clamp or maybe the driveway gates.
    the letters are addressed to him and him alone, the house is in my mothers name alone.
    whats her position.
  • Umkomaas wrote: »
    How about default judgment in favour of the claimant, not paid in 28 days, CCJ attached, claimant seeks court order for bailiff recovery action, bailiff turns up.

    Clearly worst case scenario (not scaremongering - I don't do that, I try to help people) but every step along this path is avoidable hassle. One letter with certified death certificate should be the end of it.

    Of course you are scaremongering. So the bailiffs could clamp any car at the house could they? Absolute rubbish! Bailiffs can only enforce what is on the order and they are not all heartless. Once it was established that the person named on the order was deceased, if no property was in his name, they would have to walk away and report to the court. The parking company would have spent money for nothing and would drop the case like hot bricks.

    I am actually astounded that you got thanks for such ill informed advice
  • Guys_Dad
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    happybiker wrote: »
    Of course you are scaremongering. So the bailiffs could clamp any car at the house could they? Absolute rubbish! Bailiffs can only enforce what is on the order and they are not all heartless. Once it was established that the person named on the order was deceased, if no property was in his name, they would have to walk away and report to the court. The parking company would have spent money for nothing and would drop the case like hot bricks.

    I am actually astounded that you got thanks for such ill informed advice

    He got thanks for saying that a letter now could bring this to an end. Personally, I think that is good advice.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,343 Forumite
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    happybiker wrote: »
    Of course you are scaremongering. So the bailiffs could clamp any car at the house could they? Absolute rubbish! Bailiffs can only enforce what is on the order and they are not all heartless. Once it was established that the person named on the order was deceased, if no property was in his name, they would have to walk away and report to the court. The parking company would have spent money for nothing and would drop the case like hot bricks.

    I am actually astounded that you got thanks for such ill informed advice

    The key point is there is no need to risk any further hassle, why let it get as far as court papers, which you seem to be advocating (do you call that 'informed advice'?) - what I'm saying is one letter, one certificate, end of matter.

    If the PPC proceeds with court papers after that (more fool them) we'll help the OP and her mother then, I presume you'll be around to help too?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
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