Energy comes at a very high price - get over it.

michaels

Carl31 wrote: »

I watch the prices between suppliers like a hawk, and would swap as soon as i felt i was getting a bad deal compared to elsewhere

but the difference between suppliers is pretty tiny nowdays, its often not worth the bother

But I bet you are not on a 'standard tariff' and even if you have not switched supplier I bt you haven't just kept the same product year in year out....

wotsthat

michaels wrote: »

Many of those who don't switch fall back on 'all the companies raise their prices' so there is no point switching 'it is a cartel' and anyway look at the 'doorstep switching scandals'....sounds like the marketing departments of the energy companies have being doing a great job at segmenting the market - those who can be bothered to switch to save 300+ per year have a wide choice of tariffs, those who are too lazy to even look believe the 'cartel' message and allow the energy companies to make big profits. No wonder British Gas adverts are all about how cuddly and reliable they are rather than about their prices.

My favourite fall back is 'prices will only go up anyway so it's best to pay more now to avoid the shock later'.

Agree on the British Gas ads - I've been investigating a boiler replacement. The BG labour charge is of the same order as what a local company will charge for the same boiler including fitting.

Strangely, it's the first boiler I've considered replacing in two decades of home ownership contrary to some of the 'what's cheaper - renting or buying threads' and have only spent c£300 in repairs in that time. We don't see any more of those threads.

TruckerT

theEnd wrote: »

Am I the only person who thinks energy is really cheap?

What are you comparing it with?

TruckerT

Percy1983

Carl31 wrote: »

I watch the prices between suppliers like a hawk, and would swap as soon as i felt i was getting a bad deal compared to elsewhere

but the difference between suppliers is pretty tiny nowdays, its often not worth the bother

I do the same, only been a home owner for 19 months and I am on my second supplier.

I agree when watching like we do the differences are tiny between them all when its comes to cheapest tariffs, but we will both be saving a packet compared to those who have never moved or even looked at there tariff.

antrobus

TruckerT wrote: »

...It was Mr Cameron who took great delight in visiting the Arctic region (probably by helicopter) in order to hug a polar bear....

I was curious, since I couldn't recall any recent press reports of Cameron visiting the Arctic, but apparently he did once go to Svalbard to inspect a glacier and see the effects of climate change up close. But that was back in 2006. And if a week is a long time in politics .....

Mind you, I expect he travelled there by the perfectly normal scheduled air service between Svalbard and the Norwegian mainland, and I doubt very much whether he went there to "hug a polar bear". Certain consequences are inevitable when Etonians try and hug a polar bear in Svalbard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14415592

TruckerT

antrobus wrote: »

I was curious, since I couldn't recall any recent press reports of Cameron visiting the Arctic, but apparently he did once go to Svalbard to inspect a glacier and see the effects of climate change up close. But that was back in 2006. And if a week is a long time in politics .....

Mind you, I expect he travelled there by the perfectly normal scheduled air service between Svalbard and the Norwegian mainland, and I doubt very much whether he went there to "hug a polar bear". Certain consequences are inevitable when Etonians try and hug a polar bear in Svalbard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14415592

I can't really see the relevance of your link. It seems to confirm the idea that the human race is happy, and increasingly able, to destroy anything in its path.

TruckerT

Loughton_Monkey

antrobus wrote: »

..... I doubt very much whether he went there to "hug a polar bear". Certain consequences are inevitable when Etonians try and hug a polar bear in Svalbard.

I'm surprised at all the confusion [it was a husky] when it was very recently well publicised:



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ed-miliband-david-cameron-has-gone-from-hug-a-husky-to-gas-a-badger-8884084.html

If Miliband goes, I do hope he tries to hug a Polar Bear. They are renowned man eaters. Balls for main course, Red Ed for afters.

DominicJ_2

I forget, who was energy secretary when the climate change act was passed?

chucky

TruckerT wrote: »

The energy companies are facing universal criticism as never seen before. This cannot be solely due to their business practices.

Energy is the life blood of capitalism/civilisation, and its providers understand that fact.

Mr Scargill tried to hold us to ransom, and maybe the owners of Grangemouth are trying to do a similar thing.

It is a paradox of epic proportions that nearly all of the energy production which we use to create our wealth, also appears to contribute to the gradual erosion of the natural world which we all inhabit and enjoy.

In the longer term, we need to stop worrying about energy prices, and concentrate on reducing demand. None of the current hysteria seems to be aimed in the right direction.

TruckerT

Instead of getting hysterical about energy company profits, it's probably a suggestion to see where they make their money and it ain't in the domestic market. Centrica's domestic energy profit only went up by 3%.

Thrugelmir

TruckerT wrote: »

Correction. The energy companies say that their high prices are partly due to the green 'taxes'. They have offered no justification at all for their 10% price increases.

Thank you for allowing me to make this clear.

TruckerT

Then isn't a question of how the money is raised?

By removing the cost directly from fuel bills it will help those that need it the most.

The funding will be found from somewhere else.